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Are you still experiencing crashes?
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We will need the full logs please. Also please make sure you followed:
Thanks!
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This is a known issue currently and will be addressed when the checklist system is fully rewritten in a future update. Apologies for the crash
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Disregard the above. I made an error reading the log. Can you reproduce the crash and if so can you please provide the steps needed to do so?
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You noted in your initial report you were able do replicate the issue, can you provide the steps needed to replicate the issue? If you are unable to replicate the issue try following these directions:
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Disregard, I forgot the CL650 log is continuous and not over written.
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Nope that's my error I forgot the CL650 log is continuous. Sorry!
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Hello can you confirm you are on 1.4.1? it appears in the log that you are on version 1.0r1
Thanks!
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Hello, Please make sure you are on the latest version (1.4.1) it appears you are using version 1.0r1. After updating please try to reproduce your issue.
Thanks
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Hi, It looks like you are using version 1 of the CL650, currently 1.4.1 is the latest version, please update to the latest version and try to duplicate the issue. Thanks
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Your log is indicating a crash not directly related with the CL650. Please follow the directions here
and see if you continue to have crashes.
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@Raphaelvix We are looking into this issue and need some more information to better determine what happened.
What avionics modes were configured?
How far away from the VOR were you?
What was shown on the right side avionics?
Does it happen with other VORs, or just this one?
If you've hit a reproducible case, please post the instructions of the steps we can use to reproduce this issue.Thank you!
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I did make a small error when talking about etops. In the US, up to 180 minutes is fine but don’t exceed it. Otherwise you’ll need etops certification if you are flying part 135, part 91 does not have an etops requirement. But etops is an ops spec which is granted to operators and the operators designate which aircraft will be placed on the etops program, those aircraft have special maintenance requirements when conducting etops flights among other things.
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7 minutes ago, richjb said:
Thanks CaptCrash,
I'll see what I can do!
The Falcon is about the sweetest business jet to fly, alongside the Sabreliner. They both had no flying vices. The Falcon's systems were another story. They were a nightmare. Three or four switch changes just to move fuel from wing tank to the next. Only airplane I've ever flown where after a V1 cut and continued takeoff, if raised the flaps and forgot to tie the busses, and the left engine failed, you would lose the left ADC and be without an airspeed indicator to fly V2. Left me shaking my head!
Never had a chance to fly the Gulfstreams but have friends who do. The consistently use the phrase "bulletproof" to describe that airplane!
There isn't much that can ground a Gulfstream...for better or worse lol. The GV and 550 are probably the best of the new generation, once GA built that bigger wing and reworked some of the systems it really became a pleasure to fly from what I hear, some of the IVs were getting very long in the tooth. I've heard Dassault have a way with systems integration which can be...intriguing.
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Hi Rich,
Thanks for the follow up. I'll inquire if any of the changes necessitated a new airframe and update you here.
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41 minutes ago, richjb said:
Let me first check my math. Started flying the Collins FMS and Proline 4 avionics in the Falcon 2000 in 2004. We flew that aircraft for five years at which time we upgraded to the Challenger 300 with the Proline 21. We upgraded to the ProLine 21 Enhanced on our two CL300s in 2016, and in 2018 we added a new CL350 to the fleet that had the Proline 21 Enhanced with IRU. Doesn't look the same as the CL650, but functionally it is all very close.
Let me say as well, and as I have said on other post, you folks have nailed the Proline 21 and the complexities of a business jet. The Hot Start CL650 is unprecedented! It's hands above anything else in the flight sim market. I don't care about MSFS anymore. I haven't touched P3D since Christmas.
I can't say that I have specific reference documentation for what I described as that would be in the engineering manuals that are not typically available to operators or pilots. That said, I will see what I can find out for you on the subject.
What I described is typical of all the flight director systems that have flown, be it the old mechanical FD 108/FIS 84 & FD 109/FIS 85, the Honeywell Primus (Lear 45), Collins, or the Garmin G5000 I'm flying the Lear 75. Speaking of Lear 75, I am in school next week. I can see if I can shoot a video with similar profile off path to what was shown on the sample video above.
Let me continue looking at this for you.
Thanks!
Rich
Hey Rich,
I was on the GIV for a couple years before covid hit then jumped to start a masters in education, would have loved to fly a Falcon, I've heard they are great planes to fly. Thanks for the kind words. We took an initial look and found some areas to do further investigations in some of the PID controllers. If you have some spare time a video of the specific case would be very useful from the sim. We will continue investigate refining the pitch FD behavior, thanks again for the feedback. Best of luck at recurrent.
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Hi Rich,
Does the crash still occur if you create a new airframe? As far as I'm aware old versions are not available from the store.
Thanks!
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On 2/9/2022 at 1:30 PM, Frederico12 said:
When climbing out of KBFI i tried to intercept the Seattle VOR on the 146 radial, after setting a intercept heading of 116 i pressed the NAV mode on the autopilot and that caused a crash.
On the flight before i tried using the Nav mode on a VOR and it also caused some odd turns that didn't make sense to me but nothing was recorded in the LOG i don't think.
I forgot to save the LOG before resuming the flight but the CL650 log shows the Crash as:
Could you please take a look at the following post and follow those directions. Your crash log isn't complete so unless you can duplicate the issue consistently this will be exceedingly difficult to debug.
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Hi Paul,
Can you post the full log from this crash?
Thanks.
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Hi Rich,
Thank you for the detailed and well presented explanation of your concerns with the Flight Director. When you mentioned your background I thought there must be a typo for your Proline 21 experience but then I did some of my own mental math from my flying and realized how quickly time has passed. Your concerns are noted and have been passed to Totoritko for review and evaluate for revision. I didn't see anything specific in the PL21 manuals that talked specifically about FD behavior logic. Do you have a specific reference for the kind of behavior you're talking about? This implementation was a clean room ground up build of the PL21 which surprised the heck out of me when I first learned that fact. It does mean there are cases where unless someone with your experience who has done these kinds of nuanced test speaks up issues may go unnoticed due to a lack of highly informed qualitative information which otherwise wouldn't be actionable.
Thanks again!
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Thank you for the report. It has been logged as issue 2655 and will be investigated.
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4 hours ago, Ahmed Saleh said:
Same here...
You get one too
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4 hours ago, maub said:
Exactly the same on my first flight with 1.3.1
I've tried to load the plane again to deboard the passengers and it CTD again.Here have a link
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Your log is indicating that the crash was from FMOD the sound engine used in xplane. I'll pass this up to Toto and see if they have any input. Could you please run a test with a clean build per the instructions:
and see if you are still getting a crash?
Thanks
CTD while managing Flight Plan
in Crash To Desktop
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Apologies for the delay in responding, is this issue still occurring for you in 1.4?