In the end you can always make them yourselves with some potentiometers, wood skills, paint and a joystick emulator card from www.leobodnar.com - im in the process of testing it myself, ill notify once i get it working Talking of stuff like this: Of course you gotta have the time http://users.skynet.be/jcordon/cockpit/TRTLGal.htm or: http://www.fsimulator.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=81 Cheers, Nout