philipp Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 That's normal, because Plugin Admin itself is a plugin, and it counts as number 1.Muskoka, check your private messages.Philipp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonfiki Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Waiting for replies,I've noticed the problem begins when the SID or STAR contains waypoints (INTC) or (<<Altitude>>).For that waypoints the FMS show the same hdg = -2147483648° and the same distance = - 2147483648. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipp Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 bonfiki, check your private messages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Unfortunately, I have to ask the experts for help. Can't get 1.4.1 to load without crashing XP. Attached are the crash report when I try to load the CRJ and the log.txt from the main XP folder. Hopefully Phillip, or someone can offer some help. I'm down to one more download off the X-Aviation site Note that it was working at one point, but the SID/STARs where not loading into the flight plan. I removed my UFMC plug-in thinking that might be the reason and from then on haven't been able to get the CRJ loaded. My system does load other aircraft and runs fine. I've removed all my plug-ins except those noted in this and other threads. Hopefully my crash report and log with help.Thank You,NanoCrash Report.txtLog.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 sure Philipp will aswer you soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 An update on my situation:I recovered my X-Aviation aircraft folder and my XP plugins folder from time machine from this morning which was that last time I got the CRJ to load and run properly with the exception of the FMS SID/STAR waypoints. I can now get the CRJ to load and fly fine. Except I still can't get the SID or STAR waypoints to load in the FMS. I'm using a flight from KGEG to KSEA trying the load the GLASR8 arrival for ILS 16C at KSEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Thank you Javier,And thank you for your awesome aircraft. I have both the Javelin and the CRJ and enjoy them both. Here is a screen shot of my issue. Please notice the point listing on the MFD. It has KSEA listed three times multiplying the distance. In this case, I'm really only about 150 miles from KSEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I can now get the CRJ to load and fly fine. Except I still can't get the SID or STAR waypoints to load in the FMS. I'm using a flight from KGEG to KSEA trying the load the GLASR8 arrival for ILS 16C at KSEA.We'll investigate this.It has KSEA listed three times multiplying the distance. In this case, I'm really only about 150 miles from KSEA.Open your LEGS page on the FMS and verify that those three are not listed at the end of your flight plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 They were not listed on the legs page. The flight plan ended with only one KSEA. Strange, but definitely repeatable behavior. I tried the to load a SID out of SKBO and KMIA with the same results. The SID is listed and ACTivated using DEP/ARR key, but the actual waypoints of the SID/STAR are not in the flight plan.Nano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 well Philipp is working hard to fix these ones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutestyles Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) my problems are back im still getn crashes when entering a SID even with the new navigraph.crash_log.txtLog.txt Edited January 28, 2012 by mutestyles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Crash logs are really necessary when reporting these issues, guys. Please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutestyles Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 lol forgot to attach them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipp Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Unfortunately, I have to ask the experts for help. Can't get 1.4.1 to load without crashing XP. Attached are the crash report when I try to load the CRJ and the log.txt from the main XP folder. Nano, the crash report shows there was some problem recovering the navdata from the cache. You can just clear the cache by deleting the files inside CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics/cachePhilipp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipp Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 An update on my situation:I recovered my X-Aviation aircraft folder and my XP plugins folder from time machine from this morning which was that last time I got the CRJ to load and run properly with the exception of the FMS SID/STAR waypoints. I can now get the CRJ to load and fly fine. Except I still can't get the SID or STAR waypoints to load in the FMS. I'm using a flight from KGEG to KSEA trying the load the GLASR8 arrival for ILS 16C at KSEA.Please, when X-Plane crashes when trying to load the SID or STAR, there must be a crash report generated. You find it in the Console Applications/Utilities/Console.app under "User diagnostic reports". Post it here!Philipp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipp Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Here is a screen shot of my issue. Please notice the point listing on the MFD. It has KSEA listed three times multiplying the distance. In this case, I'm really only about 150 miles from KSEA.This is because you have no waypoints on the way to KSEA.If KSEA is both the active, the next and the final waypoint, you will see it three times. When you get the STAR and approach loaded correctly, this issue will solve itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipp Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I tried the to load a SID out of SKBO and KMIA with the same results. The SID is listed and ACTivated using DEP/ARR key, but the actual waypoints of the SID/STAR are not in the flight plan.Did you make sure you have selected the correct transitions?Because if you select only STAR or APP without a transition, it won't be inserted. If you don't see any transitions, make sure you can press "PREV PAGE" to get to the beginning of the list.Philipp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retiree_caf Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Phillip, where do I find the crash log files of CRJ700 ver 1.4.1? I am using Windows 7/64bit.I deleted and reinstall x-plane and CRJ-200 1.4.1 a few times over the past few weeks and still having crashes when using SIDs and STARs.ThanksRetiree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per.ekhall Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) I too experience crashes when loading certain SIDs. This happens both with default 1.4.1 navdata (cyle 1109) and with the latest cycle (cycle 1201).I'm on Win XP 32, X-plane 9.70.To reproduceDeparture airport: EKBIDestination airport: EKCHEnter route: DCT ABINO T56 TESPI [EXEC]Now, depending on which SID I select, either X-Plane crashes or not (appropiate RWY is selected using the right softkey first, then, when pressing left softkey to select SID, X-Plane crashes immediately):ABIN4A: Works OK.ABIN4B: Crash!ALS3A: Works OK.BAMP2A: Works OK.RADI3A: Works OK.MIKR2A: Crash!The crash seems to be fully reproducible depending on which SID I select.Now this may not be significant, but when I look inside the EKBI.xml file, the two SIDs that cause a crash have one thing in common: Waypoints of type = ConstHdgToAlt. The SIDs that work OK do not have this waypoint type (I'm just guessing here...).It is very strange, but there is no crash_log.txt produced in the X-Plane 9 directory. Only Data.txt, Cycle Dump.txt and Log.txt are produced.Hope this information can be of help. I'll be happy to do further testing on my system, just advise what to test.Regards,Per Edited January 28, 2012 by per.ekhall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Philipp, I'm not getting crash_log.txt either when the CRJ crashes, I used to?? I'm only using XPX at the moment.Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipp Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Folks,thanks to a report from Muskoka and a long telephone call with my debugging mentor Jörg Hermann (hat tip) I finally found what is causing the SID/STAR crashes. I'm wrapping up a patch right now and send it to few users to test, then I hope we can put 1.4.2 out to all customers by Monday.Philipp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutestyles Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Yippie!!!!!! would be nice to not have it crash I miss flying it already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) That one was a really ugly bug!!! when Philipp explained to me I couldn't believe it... but that is normal in programming.Well.. I hope that fix can solve all the problems people are having around.You maybe think why so many bugs when 1.3 was stable enough "these guys are going backwards" Well.. lot of programming was redone to introduce new features that were not supported in vascore, and also to increase performance. So 1.4 is something like a new plugin.. so something like a 1.0 version.When everything is smooth you all people will have a really incredible plane with good performance and lot of systems to play with.Of course there are people that already have it without any problem... and any that wish to fly "now" can do it in the 1.3.1 version... but the wait will worth it for sure.In this 1.4 version sure Philipp and I we have some more white hair!!! (me sure!!!) XD Edited January 29, 2012 by Japo32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutestyles Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hes too young for white hair. But he may look 50 bye the time the CRJ is at version 3 lol if it goes that high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per.ekhall Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Bugs are unavoidable when developing software. I really appreciate your efforts improving the performance and functions of this great aircraft model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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