Pax Door not closed proberly

[seelenkrieger]

not knowing if it is a real bug, cause didn't know the CL650 from real life.

observed follow thing:
If you close the Pax door without pulling the red handle in the stair section, even CAS nor the Ramp guy observe the door is not properly closed.
From other A/C I know that the doors are closed and locked sensed, but it seems locked is missing in the CL650.

could you confirm that this is real?

Edited January 10, 2022 by seelenkrieger

[Graeme_77]

It does sense the locking, but perhaps you forgot to pull the red knob to retract the exterior handle? https://streamable.com/isduzp

 

[seelenkrieger]

I know I have forgotten to pull it as written above.
but it wonder me that the CAS don't give me a "pax door open" warning in that case.
In airliners the handle flush is also observed for a closed state via a sensor.

so question is if the CL650 doesn't have a sensor to observe the handle, or if it is forgotten in the plane programming.
also that the ramp guy didn't see it, as in the stream advised that he look if doors are closed before the engine start thumb

[Graeme_77]

You should get a PAX DOOR OUT HNDL if you don't retract the exterior handle with the stow pull, and PAX DOOR STOW if you don't lower the flap on the stow pull.

The Hand Signals person should, I think, detect the handle isn't retracted and give you a thumbs down, but I'll need to check that.

[seelenkrieger]

Graeme_77 your right, PAX DOOR OUT HNDL warning illuminate in the CAS

but ramp guy didn't recognize it

[Graeme_77]

OK, I'll check with the developers to verify if that's a visual check the hand signals should be looking for.

It's been suggested most ramp crews would be very unlikely to notice the door handle, but will check if it's a bug or design behaviour. Thanks for reporting back.