Irish Murphy Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 This morning in the TBM I was making a flight from KEYW to KTPA and everything was going good until gear down... Right gear stuck and would not come down. Tried about 5 times to lower and retract in hopes of jarring it loose but that didn’t work. Well after a go around I decided the best thing would be probably to just go gear up and belly land in the grass next to the runway. Landed smooth but as soon as the prop hit I had an engine fire and of course after that there was nothing to do but write off the airframe. One question.. should I have properly shut the engine down right before touchdown to prevent fuel residue? I’m guessing this is what caused the fire. I’m sure I may have needed a new airframe even without the fire but it really sucked because I had a lot of hours on that particular airframe. Quote
Gregg Seipp Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, Irish Murphy said: This morning in the TBM I was making a flight from KEYW to KTPA and everything was going good until gear down... Right gear stuck and would not come down. Tried about 5 times to lower and retract in hopes of jarring it loose but that didn’t work. Well after a go around I decided the best thing would be probably to just go gear up and belly land in the grass next to the runway. Landed smooth but as soon as the prop hit I had an engine fire and of course after that there was nothing to do but write off the airframe. One question.. should I have properly shut the engine down right before touchdown to prevent fuel residue? I’m guessing this is what caused the fire. I’m sure I may have needed a new airframe even without the fire but it really sucked because I had a lot of hours on that particular airframe. I´d say shutting off the fuel might be wise to keep the fuel away from the hot engine, though I haven´t looked at the checklist. Just curious if you tried to manually lower the gear. Quote
Irish Murphy Posted April 7, 2019 Author Report Posted April 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, Gregg Seipp said: I´d say shutting off the fuel might be wise to keep the fuel away from the hot engine, though I haven´t looked at the checklist. Just curious if you tried to manually lower the gear. Dang!!! I totally forgot about doing that, At least I know to try that next time... thanks Quote
ChefRob Posted April 10, 2019 Report Posted April 10, 2019 On 4/7/2019 at 3:26 PM, Gregg Seipp said: I´d say shutting off the fuel might be wise to keep the fuel away from the hot engine, though I haven´t looked at the checklist. Yep... Once you are positive you are going to make the runway the checklist says Throttle to Flight idle and fuel selector to OFF. On 4/7/2019 at 3:42 PM, Irish Murphy said: Dang!!! I totally forgot about doing that, At least I know to try that next time... thanks That's an expensive OOPS... Quote
cbreeze Posted April 15, 2019 Report Posted April 15, 2019 Climb to a safe altitude and extend the gear manually making sure the gear lever is in the down position. The procedure is in the manual. Will take quite a few pumps of the extension handle in the floor. Recently happened to me and that’s how I got my gear down and landed safely. Quote
Gregg Seipp Posted April 15, 2019 Report Posted April 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, cbreeze said: Climb to a safe altitude and extend the gear manually making sure the gear lever is in the down position. The procedure is in the manual. Will take quite a few pumps of the extension handle in the floor. Recently happened to me and that’s how I got my gear down and landed safely. Why's it happening so much? Statistically, this shouldn't happen to once in a very blue moon. Quote
ChefRob Posted April 15, 2019 Report Posted April 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Gregg Seipp said: Why's it happening so much? Statistically, this shouldn't happen to once in a very blue moon. New users and rough landings most likely and not checking the maintenance screen before each flight. I'm still on my very first air frame I started when I got the TBM... I've not had one issue or emergency with it. Coming up on about 150 hours(with accelerated wear active) in it with the most money spent on oil changes, left gear, left brake work. Crosswind landing tweaked the gear when I landed. Quote
Gregg Seipp Posted April 15, 2019 Report Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, ChefRob said: New users and rough landings most likely and not checking the maintenance screen before each flight. I'm still on my very first air frame I started when I got the TBM... I've not had one issue or emergency with it. Coming up on about 150 hours(with accelerated wear active) in it with the most money spent on oil changes, left gear, left brake work. Crosswind landing tweaked the gear when I landed. I'm not that good either. I've pranged two airframes simply rolling down the runway. Quote
cbreeze Posted April 15, 2019 Report Posted April 15, 2019 Unfortunately I’ve been through several airframes for various reasons. The experience I related in my previous post was the first malfunction I had with any of the airframes. Quote
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