Brunner Force feedback compatibility ?

[cmbaviator]

Hi guys,

 

I'm considering to invest in a force feedback yoke :https://www.brunner-innovation.swiss/product/cls-e-ng-yoke// for the IXEG and TBM 900. How ever it's not yet compatible with the TBM because it needs to know the aerodynamic force point location, something like that to work properly. So I was wondering if it's the case with the IXEG ?

 

thanks

Edited November 7, 2018 by cmbaviator

[Vesa]

Hi, 

I have a Brunner CLS-E yoke and it works perfectly with TBM 900 and IGEX 737. I haven’t done final tuning for TBM yet, so I still use the same settings that I have with PC-12. No problems at all. It is a amazing yoke and brings a real life feeling to simulator espacially when using it with VR. I’m flying real planes too, so it’s easy to compare.

Br. Vesa

[cmbaviator]

Hi Vesa, Are you sure about the TBM, if it works, then it's perfect

 

I found this on the TBM forum : 

After reading it again, I think it's the OP that have issue with his own software ?

 

I think i'll purchase it mid november?

 

Could the devs give me the maximum force that could be applied on the elevator axis on the real 733 and max torque on the roll axis ?

 

thanks

[Vesa]

Hello cmbaviator,

Yes, I’m sure about the TBM. I fly it almost daily.

Since I don’t have CLS-E NG but CLS-E, I can’t say about the forces of NG model. But you can add maximum force that NG provides to any plane you want.

  -Vesa

[cmbaviator]

On 11/9/2018 at 5:05 PM, Vesa said:

Hello cmbaviator,

Yes, I’m sure about the TBM. I fly it almost daily.

Since I don’t have CLS-E NG but CLS-E, I can’t say about the forces of NG model. But you can add maximum force that NG provides to any plane you want.

  -Vesa

 

Vesa, are you on Hot start discord ? Just ordered the CLS-E  and a made an excel profile for the TBM ( force applied vs current airspeed), I would like you test it

[frumpy]

On 11/8/2018 at 10:45 AM, cmbaviator said:

Could the devs give me the maximum force that could be applied on the elevator axis on the real 733 and max torque on the roll axis ?

 

Perhaps these links will add some confusion: :-)

http://aerowinx.com/board/index.php?topic=4751.msg50540#msg50540

https://www.quora.com/How-much-force-is-needed-to-move-the-flight-controls-while-taking-off-in-Boeing-or-Airbus-aircraft

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ad6fc84ed915d32a65dbcd5/Boeing_737-8AS_EI-EBW_05-18.pdf

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.430.6702&rep=rep1&type=pdf

 

Judging from a 737 simulator, the controls are "quite heavy".

Dont know if that helps, though..

[cmbaviator]

YeaH thanks. 

[Vesa]

Hi,

Most likely I’m not in Hot Start discord, since I even don’t know what it is. Is there any other way to send me that profile excel? I am willing to test it.

  -Vesa

[frumpy]

Could you guys share your results? If I'd have the $$$$, I'd go for Brunner too.

[cmbaviator]

I made 3 profiles for the TBM but i don't know how to set those value in the software

TBM-CLS-E-1.xlsx

[jfjoubert]

If I sell my car I can also buy a Brunner Yoke here in South Africa...