heyjoojoo Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 BTW, I'm not referring to overall brightness of the cockpit which would be provided by the dome light and panel brightness button. I'm referring to the illuminated signs and messages that appear in the consoles that are overhead, in the forward and pedestal panels. They seem a little dim to me compared to real-world B734 flight deck.
Litjan Posted January 4, 2017 Report Posted January 4, 2017 Hmm, I think they are just fine, compared to a real-world B733 flight-deck . Is your bright/dim switch on bright?
heyjoojoo Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Posted January 4, 2017 10 hours ago, Litjan said: Hmm, I think they are just fine, compared to a real-world B733 flight-deck . Is your bright/dim switch on bright? Which bright/dim switch? Are you referring to the one in the overhead?
frumpy Posted January 4, 2017 Report Posted January 4, 2017 Check the switch above the standby horizon.
heyjoojoo Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Posted January 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, frumpy said: Check the switch above the standby horizon. that adjusts the light bulbs behind the individual buttons/messages?
criley Posted January 4, 2017 Report Posted January 4, 2017 I am confused what you are asking for. There are tons of light switches and dimmers in the Cockpit. On the overhead and the pedestal they both have their own panel dimmers labeled "Panel" This will adjust the brightness of the Labels for each instrument/switch. There of course is the White dome above the circuit breakers where the switch is located on the upper most panel and has a Bright/Dim toggle. Then there is the super bright Cockpit light above in the overhead panel where the dimmer switch is located on the pedestal next to the panel dimmer. Then of course you have the other light switches in front of each pilot for maps and the main Panel. When turned on, it is like daytime, so i am not sure what you are having difficulty seeing unless your monitor brightness is very low.
heyjoojoo Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 58 minutes ago, criley said: I am confused what you are asking for. There are tons of light switches and dimmers in the Cockpit. On the overhead and the pedestal they both have their own panel dimmers labeled "Panel" This will adjust the brightness of the Labels for each instrument/switch. There of course is the White dome above the circuit breakers where the switch is located on the upper most panel and has a Bright/Dim toggle. Then there is the super bright Cockpit light above in the overhead panel where the dimmer switch is located on the pedestal next to the panel dimmer. Then of course you have the other light switches in front of each pilot for maps and the main Panel. When turned on, it is like daytime, so i am not sure what you are having difficulty seeing unless your monitor brightness is very low. Sorry about the confusion. Not sure how to describe this... The individual light switches have their own light sources. It seems in the IXEG, that they are a little dimmer than the actual panel in a 737CL. Can I adjust how these individual lights on the switches? I would imagine if I did a night time flight, that I could turn up the lights behind the panel to have these switches and buttons more prominent in the panel. Edited January 4, 2017 by heyjoojoo
frumpy Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 I don't really understand what you are saying. I assume you mean the bad readability on the panel itself and the very bright annunciators. Now this photo is a representation of the true world. Photocells do not have the same ability to depict differences in brightness, as out eyes do. In other words, our eyes have a higher dynamic range than the sensors of a camera have. Try this: If it ever turns spring again, take your smartphone, go out on the field, take a photo of the sun with ground visible. Now take a photo of the ground with the sun visible. You'll notice: the first photo shows the sun, while ground is dark. The second photo shows ground, while the sun is not really visible, it's just a huge, very bright spot on the pic. If you look at it with your eyes, you'll get a quite different impression Thats what happened on the photo you posted, the dynamic range of the camera is just different from the eye.
heyjoojoo Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, frumpy said: I don't really understand what you are saying. I assume you mean the bad readability on the panel itself and the very bright annunciators. Now this photo is a representation of the true world. Photocells do not have the same ability to depict differences in brightness, as out eyes do. In other words, our eyes have a higher dynamic range than the sensors of a camera have. Try this: If it ever turns spring again, take your smartphone, go out on the field, take a photo of the sun with ground visible. Now take a photo of the ground with the sun visible. You'll notice: the first photo shows the sun, while ground is dark. The second photo shows ground, while the sun is not really visible, it's just a huge, very bright spot on the pic. If you look at it with your eyes, you'll get a quite different impression Thats what happened on the photo you posted, the dynamic range of the camera is just different from the eye. Not really. The photo was either taken at night or the "lights" were adjusted to appear that way. Either way, it required input from the pilots to change it. It's not like a cell phone which uses "auto brightness". The lights are manually adjusted within the flight deck. So are you saying that those annuciator lights cannot be brightened manually? Edited January 5, 2017 by heyjoojoo 1
frumpy Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 No, I was talking about other stuff. Anyway, if the light-switch above the backup horizon is on BRT, all is fine.
heyjoojoo Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, frumpy said: No, I was talking about other stuff. Anyway, if the light-switch above the backup horizon is on BRT, all is fine. Hahahaha.... correct. It probably is "right" for some but that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if it can be adjusted. Sounds like maybe you're not sure? 1
frumpy Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I'm pretty sure you're trollin'. Edited January 5, 2017 by frumpy 1 1
heyjoojoo Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Posted January 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, frumpy said: I'm pretty sure you're trollin'. I don't appreciate such comments. Please do not reply with that if you don't want to contribute. 2
Morten Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, heyjoojoo said: Please do not reply with that if you don't want to contribute. Frumpy and others - even a real B733 captain - has given you all the advice and information you need on this. Use it. Topic closed M
Litjan Posted January 6, 2017 Report Posted January 6, 2017 15 hours ago, heyjoojoo said: Hahahaha.... correct. It probably is "right" for some but that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if it can be adjusted. Sounds like maybe you're not sure? And just to give you a concise answer to your question - yes, they could be adjusted, but not by the user, only by us, the developers. And we won´t, because we feel they are correct. The picture you show is overexposing the lights, if the annunciators in my cockpit had ever been that bright, I would have grounded the aircraft because that is VERY disturbing during a night flight. So while your personal preference may be to have them more bright, we provide no means to adjust lights to personal preference, unfortunately. Jan 1
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