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Hi, Didn't theme just changed slightly? It seems somehow different. Quick jump popup menu at the bottom is different as well as some backgrounding. Is there a prize for first spotter? Kind regards, Kamil

I am happy to give it a go. Hope it will work better. What scheduler are you using? in terms of my kernel configuration: $ grep -i sched /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_HAVE_UNSTABLE_SCHED_CLOCK=y CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y # CONFIG_SCHED_AUTOGROUP is not set # IO Schedulers CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y CONFIG_DEFAULT_IOSCHED=[b]"cfq"[/b] CONFIG_SCHED_OMIT_FRAME_POINTER=y # CONFIG_SCHED_SMT is not set CONFIG_SCHED_MC=y CONFIG_SCHED_HRTICK=y CONFIG_NET_SCHED=y # Queueing/Scheduling # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED is not set # CONFIG_SCHED_TRACER is not set Kind regards, Kamil

I have (I think) an older version - also quad core: processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 16 model : 2 model name : AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core Processor stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 2511.625 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 4 core id : 0 cpu cores : 4 apicid : 0 initial apicid : 0 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 5 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs npt lbrv svm_lock bogomips : 5023.25 TLB size : 1024 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate Philipp?

Hi MdMax, Yes, I may do have some dust but shouldn't be anything major. In terms of temperatures: CPU ~ 70°C GPU ~ 60°C MB ~ 50°C and raising just by few degrees with CRJ (machine has been used for hours). I do install nvidia drivers using gentoo's package manager. Kind regards, Kamil

Seems like it is not only me left with stuttering. NathosThaymoth, please let me know if you find solution. Also, do you mind posting your CPU (cat /proc/cpuinfo) infos? Kind regards, Kamil

Hi Philipp and MdMax, This is exactly what I thought - my setup should be more than fine to run it. I am having pretty high FPS (jumping from 20s to 50s) and stuttering is present regardless to graphic settings in sim. Something must be really wrong. Maybe I have a bottle neck somewhere else? HDD, MB? I always turn off Chrome as it together with XPlane eats all memory and system gets pretty unresponsive. There is no heavy background tasks at all. All four cores are bored to death before I start XPlane. I am using fluxbox - very minimalistic, so I wouldn't blame DM/WM. In regards to compiz&friends - I do not even have Compositing enabled in xorg (perhaps that is a cause? ). Philipp, do you mean Big Kernel Lock? I am now using 2.6.39 with patch set provided by gentoo devs (gentoo-sources) but as far as I know it was completely removed in this release anyway (mainstream). May I ask whether you are using 32 or 64 bits builds? Philipp, is there any other piece of information that I could provide you with which would give you EUREKA-I-know-what-is-wrong-with-kamils-setup moment? Kind regards, Kamil

Hi Javier, I have tried to swap FMC pages around. Regardless to which page is being shown I experience huge amount of stuttering. As soon as I switch Battery on (and then APU/GPU) stuttering starts. I do not experience it until having displays on. Kind regards, Kamil

Hi, I am still struggling with flying this bird smoothly. Stuttering I experience is pretty bad and does not allow me to enjoy this plane at all. Here is previous post of mine which unfortunately did not get too much attention as 1.0 forum has been closed. http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php?topic=2345.msg22486#msg22486 Cameron, should I be able to fly her with on problems taking in consideration my spec (see below)? Lot's of people reports having no problems or whatsoever even with dual core CPU. I would like to know whether it is down to my software or hardware. Kind regards, Kamil

Oh yes, haha, pretty simple solution. It just happen that I had uninstalled it manually after first exit of new installer. Anyway. Easy to fix and Cameron knows about it. I am just using browser from Ubuntu 11.04 installer. Will see if it works this time and hopefully solves my stuttering problems. Kind regards, Kamil

Hi Cam, To be confirmed, but at the first glance it seems like an installer is looking for "Uninstall CRJ-200.run" while there is only "Uninstall CRJ-200" (no .run). Even after manual removal (using uninstaller and then removing remaining directories manually) new installer tries to uninstall version 1.0. Bug? The way to 'fool' it is to create a returning success exit code script called as what Installer is looking for. In my case it is: $ cat Uninstall\ CRJ-200.run #!/bin/sh exit 0 It worked. And again, Installer created uninstaller with no .run appended. Kind regards, Kamil

Oh, will reinstall Ubuntu then and have a look whether my problem disappears. What exactly was the change regarding compatibility with Ubuntu fixing? Kamil

Hi Philllip, First of all sorry for opening new thread. Decided to have it in one place. I am still struggling making CRJ200 run properly, unfortunately. I really hope that you will be able to help. I have installed archlinux and there as well as in gentoo I can see stuttering with displays on as well as 'mysterious dotted boxes' on displays. Could you please provide me with information of version of: mesa, opengl, nvidia drivers, kernel openal, Qt (and whatever else you might think might be relevant) of a system that is know to work well? I will then try to upgrade/downgrade them one by one in order to find what the problem is. Please find attached list of packages installed now: media-libs/mesa (7.10.2-r1@28/04/11): OpenGL-like graphic library for Linux x11-apps/mesa-progs (8.0.1@23/01/11): Mesa's OpenGL utility and demo programs (glxgears and glxinfo) media-video/nvidia-settings (275.09[1]@24/05/11): NVIDIA Linux X11 Settings Utility x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers (275.09[1]@24/05/11): NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl (20110129-r1@26/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries dev-python/pyopengl (3.0.1@26/02/11): Python OpenGL bindings virtual/opengl (7.0@10/10/09): Virtual for OpenGL implementation x11-libs/qt-opengl (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The OpenGL module for the Qt toolkit app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs (20110129@28/05/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-compat (20100611@18/06/10): 32 bit lib-compat, and also libgcc_s and libstdc++ from gcc 3.3 and 3.4 for non-multilib systems app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs (20110129@13/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs (20110129@13/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl (20110129-r1@26/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs (20110129@13/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-sdl (20110129@13/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs (20110129@13/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs (20110129@13/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves (4.6.3(4.6)@25/05/11): KDE kioslaves from the kdemultimedia package app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs (20110129@13/02/11): Provides precompiled 32bit libraries dev-libs/libdbusmenu-qt (0.8.2@30/04/11): A library providing Qt implementation of DBusMenu specification dev-python/PyQt4 (4.8.4@24/05/11): Python bindings for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-core (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The Qt toolkit is a comprehensive C++ application development framework x11-libs/qt-dbus (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The DBus module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-declarative (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The Declarative module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-gui (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The GUI module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-multimedia (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The Qt multimedia module x11-libs/qt-opengl (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The OpenGL module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-qt3support (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The Qt3 support module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-script (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The ECMAScript module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-sql (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The SQL module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-svg (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The SVG module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-test (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The testing framework module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-webkit (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The Webkit module for the Qt toolkit x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns (4.7.3(4)@24/05/11): The patternist module for the Qt toolkit media-libs/openal (1.13@20/03/11): A software implementation of the OpenAL 3D audio API x11-base/xorg-drivers (1.10@28/04/11): Meta package containing deps on all xorg drivers x11-base/xorg-server (1.10.2@29/05/11): X.Org X servers x11-base/xorg-x11 (7.4-r1@10/10/09): An X11 implementation maintained by the X.Org Foundation (meta package) [ U] x11-misc/xorg-cf-files (1.0.3@11/04/10 -> 1.0.4): Old Imake-related build files Linux Thorium 2.6.38-gentoo-r3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 2 17:32:44 BST 2011 x86_64 AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [i will try 2.6.39 kernel in the minute] EDIT: Problem still exists with 2.6.39. And attached is nvidia debug info. Kind regards, Kamil nvidia-bug-report.txt

And it is Monday Bank Holiday in UK. =] Kamil

Thanks Cam, Another bit of info I found in dmesg: [ 3067.391742] X-Plane-i686[5056]: segfault at c6fe70d0 ip 00000000f73c10a6 sp 00000000ffef5d78 error 7 in libc-2.13.so[f734c000+156000] Kind regards, Kamil

Hi, Tried to run XPlane9.69 with CRJ200 on freshly installed Ubuntu 11.04 (amd64 version) and it crashes during loading plugins for CRJ. gdb (probably very useless bt): $ gdb X-Plane\ 9\ Demo/X-Plane-i686 GNU gdb (Ubuntu/Linaro 7.2-1ubuntu11) 7.2 Copyright © 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux-gnu". For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>... Reading symbols from /home/crs/X-Plane 9 Demo/X-Plane-i686...done. (gdb) run Starting program: /home/crs/X-Plane 9 Demo/X-Plane-i686 [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0xf5c3ab70 (LWP 5106)] [New Thread 0xf50bbb70 (LWP 5107)] [New Thread 0xf453cb70 (LWP 5108)] Looking for OpenAL here: libopenal.so [New Thread 0xec248b70 (LWP 5109)] Starting thread loader. IO_Scene of 46,10 (async=0) as 0x0e0169a8 IO_Scene of 46,11 (async=0) as 0x10672738 IO_Scene of 46,12 (async=0) as 0x10e4f898 IO_Scene of 47,10 (async=0) as 0x10e899e0 IO_Scene of 47,11 (async=0) as 0x19a37d70 IO_Scene of 47,12 (async=0) as 0x15b89b70 Kicking off async tex load. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xf7c250a6 in ?? () from /lib32/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0xf7c250a6 in ?? () from /lib32/libc.so.6 #1 0x00000000 in ?? () (gdb) ldd's: kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics$ ldd lin.xpl linux-gate.so.1 => (0xf772f000) libQtGui.so.4 => /home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics/./liblinux/libQtGui.so.4 (0xf6b75000) libQtCore.so.4 => /home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics/./liblinux/libQtCore.so.4 (0xf68d8000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf68a0000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf67b5000) libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf678f000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf6772000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf6615000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0xf6600000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libfreetype.so.6 (0xf657a000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libSM.so.6 (0xf6572000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libICE.so.6 (0xf6559000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXrender.so.1 (0xf654f000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xf6520000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXext.so.6 (0xf6511000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libX11.so.6 (0xf63f6000) libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf63f1000) librt.so.1 => /lib32/librt.so.1 (0xf63e8000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7730000) libuuid.so.1 => /lib32/libuuid.so.1 (0xf63e3000) libexpat.so.1 => /lib32/libexpat.so.1 (0xf63b9000) libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libxcb.so.1 (0xf63a0000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXau.so.6 (0xf639b000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xf6395000) kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics$ ldd QtCore4.dll not a dynamic executable kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics$ ldd QtGui4.dll not a dynamic executable kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics$ ldd liblinux/lib libfontconfig.so.1 libQtCore.so.4 libQtGui.so.4 kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics$ ldd liblinux/libfontconfig.so.1 linux-gate.so.1 => (0xf770f000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libfreetype.so.6 (0xf7632000) libexpat.so.1 => /lib32/libexpat.so.1 (0xf7608000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf74ab000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0xf7496000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7710000) kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics$ ldd liblinux/libQtCore.so.4 linux-gate.so.1 => (0xf7734000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf745d000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0xf7448000) libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf7444000) librt.so.1 => /lib32/librt.so.1 (0xf743b000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf7350000) libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf732a000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf730d000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf71b0000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7735000) kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins/CRJAvionics$ ldd liblinux/libQtGui.so.4 linux-gate.so.1 => (0xf7729000) libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib32/libQtCore.so.4 (0xf69d9000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf69c0000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0xf69ab000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libfreetype.so.6 (0xf6925000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libSM.so.6 (0xf691d000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libICE.so.6 (0xf6905000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXrender.so.1 (0xf68fa000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xf68cb000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXext.so.6 (0xf68bc000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libX11.so.6 (0xf67a1000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf66b6000) libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf668f000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf6673000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf6516000) libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf6512000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib32/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0xf650d000) librt.so.1 => /lib32/librt.so.1 (0xf6504000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib32/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xf642c000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf772a000) libuuid.so.1 => /lib32/libuuid.so.1 (0xf6427000) libexpat.so.1 => /lib32/libexpat.so.1 (0xf63fd000) libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libxcb.so.1 (0xf63e4000) libpcre.so.3 => /lib32/libpcre.so.3 (0xf63a5000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXau.so.6 (0xf63a0000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xf639a000) kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Resources/plugins/vascore$ ldd lin.xpl linux-gate.so.1 => (0xf76e4000) libQtCore.so.4 => /home/crs/XPlane9/Resources/plugins/vascore/./liblinux/libQtCore.so.4 (0xf73e0000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf73a8000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf72bd000) libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf7297000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf727b000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf711d000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0xf7108000) libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf7104000) librt.so.1 => /lib32/librt.so.1 (0xf70fb000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf76e5000) kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Resources/plugins/vascore$ ldd QtCore4.dll not a dynamic executable kamil@osceola:/home/crs/XPlane9/Resources/plugins/vascore$ ldd liblinux/libQtCore.so.4 linux-gate.so.1 => (0xf76ee000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf7417000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0xf7402000) libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf73fe000) librt.so.1 => /lib32/librt.so.1 (0xf73f5000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf730a000) libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf72e4000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf72c7000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf716a000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf76ef000) Log.txt always ends with: Fetching plugins for /home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins $ grep -i "crj\|vas" Log.txt Loaded: /home/crs/XPlane9/Resources/plugins/vascore/lin.xpl. Loading airplane number 0 with Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/CRJ200.acf. X-IvAp: Your ICAO: CRJ2 Fetching plugins for /home/crs/XPlane9/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CRJ-200/plugins Tried to reinstall crj on both Demo and my main versions - all crashes the same. XPlane works very fine with other planes. Am I missing something? Kind regards, Kamil

Nice one, will wait for it as well. Kind regards, Kamil

Sorry for short and 'rudeish' last post. What I meant is that we are not 3D designers and I myself have no idea what specular/normal maps are and what per pixel lightning is (ok, I have some understanding here). Is good to know what effect certain settings have on the plane. It looks like most of the bugs are nailed down and fixes are being prepared. For some unknown reason last night, x-plane started on on my 40" LED LCD instead of 22" monitor. Spend 30 half an hour thinking how can I rearrange my room to be able to fly using TV. :-) Kind regards, Kamil

Worth adding somewhere… Documentation? Kind regards, Kamil

They lick their fingers, open the window… At this point you know wind direction… Wind speed still is a mystery though… :-)

Simulate? d:-) Kind regards, Kamil

Javier, This is the very reason why I said 'in future update', not 'in next update'. :-) Take your time. It simply would be very nice to see it in your CRJ at some point in time. Kind regards, Kamil

I think there is one. Confusing. Anyways, I doubt (considering what have been achieved here) that this is particularly difficult to implement (datarefs available in xplane?). Perhaps in future update? Kind regards, Kamil

Hi again, As promised have installed kubuntu (well, not ubuntu as such) 11.04, and... Can confirm that boxes are gone with new system! :-) Flickering/stuttering/hiccup is still there but might be slightly less of it. As this is something that can [at this point in time] be only visualy judged by me it is difficult to say exactly whether it is placebo effect only or this annoying thing did really decrease - but anyway - problem still exists. Kind regards, Kamil

Phillip, This sound exactly like my problem. Kind regards, Kamil

Hi Phillip, It is very fair point you stated here. I shall install completely fresh Ubuntu 11.04 on separate partition and will test it there before we move forward with debugging. I do rally not want to waste your time now with those problems unless I prove that they are not there due to misconfiguration. I will reply in this threads with my findings as soon as I know more. If it comes to sampling profiler - I do not know what it is. Can gdb be used for it? I am sure I will manage to provide you with details with your little help but let me try separate installation first. Kind regards, Kamil