Hal

You see, eaglewing, when I talked about the civility of the people here, I was definitely not talking about you. People do have a right to come and enquire about the project or give their 2 cents, and you don't get the right to tell them to shut up, even with a smiley.

I know these posts are a bit old, but I was amazed to read the entire thread just today. I might make some people unhappy with this, but I feel it needs to be said. Promise for an upgrade actually starts on post 1 of the thread, sometime around 2009, so 3 years ago, for a product that is 3 1/2 years old. I personally remember discussions on another forum promising a number of small changes (including adding an ADF) from pretty much day 1, but then I can't prove it, those are gone. I'm not sure how you can talk of commitment to a product when you have been teasing upgrades for the past 3 years and have nothing to show for it. Anyone who bought said product on the hope generated by the pictures and videos shown on this forum since 2009 must be feeling pretty bad right now. Don't get me wrong: I used to love the plane, I bought it for what is was back in '08, and had the good sense to stop expecting an update quite a while ago. But reading the entire thread today, 3 years of teasers and not a single release, and then all these talks of commitment and getting everything right feels more than a tad disingenuous. Personally, I applaud the patience and civility of all the buyers who have been posting here.