Kalnon

I do not believe your data is fully relevant either as you only sell a few aircraft so your data is very incomplete, it does not cover aircraft available from all payware sites. I don't think you can come to the definite conclusion that most X-Plane users are only installing all of their payware aircraft (from all payware sites) that are both XP11 & XP12 compatible into XP12 only just based on the limited data you have. It's your aircraft and you can do with it whatever you please, it just makes me very sad that you guys (and LES) are abandoning XP11 users just because a newer X-Plane version was just released. In my opinion, your reasons for not wanting to do it are kind of lame to be honest and sound more like excuses to me (just being honest, not trying to start a fight). You may not care but It makes me upset and I no longer want to buy any of your aircraft ever, whether they're XP11 compatible or not and even when I do finally switch to XP12 I won't buy any so you just lost at least one customer that was willing to spend good money. Yes, it does happen on occasion that someone will buy the wrong version but I believe most flight simulation users are smarter than you think (most do know how to read) and I don't believe it happens nearly as often as you think. Personally, I have never made that mistake and I use many flight simulators out there since 2002 and still buy payware for many of them. I also still use FSX:SE (this sim is near and dear to my heart and I'll never give it up.) and even though it's very dated, one thing I love about it is there's still to this day thousands of payware add-ons still available for it as well as thousands of freeware add-ons too allowing me to create my own unique flight simulator exactly the way I want it using vanilla FSX as the base, using add-ons and making my own modifications. If I had to estimate, I would say about 90% of the add-ons ever made (both free and paid) for FSX are still available on the internet, in fact you can still find many FS9 payware for sale too. At least the FSX developers are still willing to sell their add-ons (and fairly often still give support) and not abandon the community (and yes, the FSX community still exists even if it's smaller these days).

Lol good point. I believe you but I did a survey a couple months ago (from a popular flight sim website) asking me which simulators I use most and after I finished the survey it showed me the results which actually showed many more X-Plane users are using still using X-Plane 11 version 11.55 over X-Plane 12. Another strange result that surpised me is that some X-Plane users are still using an outdated version of X-Plane 11 (version 11.30 I believe but I could be wrong) for some reason. I am not asking for continued support and updates for XP11 add-ons. As I said before, I would be happy to buy the XP11 version of the IXEG 737 as is with no developer support or new updates. All I'm asking is that they make it available for sale, I don't think that's asking too much and it will in no way hurt development of current products.

I do believe I'm in the minority but I wouldn't call it a severe minority. I've seen plenty of people on the different X-Plane forums talking about still using X-Plane 11. In fact, I just happened to look up X-Plane 10 on Steam and read the reviews, I was curious as I never used that version. What surprised me is that there were a lot of recent reviews of people talking about how they still use X-Plane 10 even today.

What kind of complexities would make it so difficult to keep the XP11 version available for sale on the website? That doesn't make sense to me. I don't know a lot about hosting a site that sells downloadable products, but it can't be that difficult to leave it up on the store for people to buy and download. I mean, there's nothing else you really have to do (as far as I know) except keep it available in the store than just let it sit there for sale (with a "no longer supported" disclaimer) and keep the "master" copy of the aircraft on the site (or wherever you keep your downloads) available for people to download it. What else do you have to do that wasn't already done really? There's an FSX/P3D aircraft developer that was named Milviz (now called Blackbird Simulations), they made a lot of high quality payware. About a year ago, they decided to drop out of the FSX/P3D market and focus on MSFS and then they did something very awesome for the FSX/P3D community (yes, they still exist), they re-released all 25 of there FSX/P3D aircraft as freeware and made them all available for anyone to download on their own website which they host themselves: Blackbird Simulations - Freebies (blackbirdsims.com) If they can make 25 legacy aircraft available for download for free on their site, why can't you just keep one single legacy XP11 aircraft available (for sale)? Can it be that difficult to do? As for still wanting to use XP11, I am certainly not unwilling to deal with XP12 because I own it already, I just don't use it much rn. Though it is an improvement over XP11, It's not nearly as impressive as I had hoped it would be and not much better than my heavily modified version of XP11, most of the time I find myself firing up XP11 instead. Also XP12 is barely even out of beta now. For XP11 I have many aircraft that are not and likely will not be updated for XP12 that I still enjoy flying, I have my Orbx TE scenery (most of which is not yet XP12 compatible) and loads of other types of scenery as well as many other kinds of add-ons, in fact, I have XP11 looking nearly as good as XP12 does and in some ways even better looking. I'm not going to give up XP11 and the several hundred dollars' worth of add-ons I own that goes with it just to use XP12 which has very limited amount of content compared to XP11 rn and it will likely take a very long time for developers to do their thing and make old add-ons fully compatible (many converted XP11 to XP12 aircraft and other add-ons still have plenty of bugs & other issues to work out as well as the newly released content) as well as make more new add-ons. There's still a lot of upsides to still using XP11 for me. It is going to be a very, very long time before I switch to using XP12 on a regular basis, probably at least a few years or so, in fact I'm thinking about uninstalling it because I use it so little and it's taking up so much storage just sitting there. I'm not buying the IXEG 737 if I can only get it for XP12, it's not worth it to me. I'm also not going to buy the new LES DC3 for the same reasons.

Just wondering if there's any kind of coverage map for both "The Gate to the Great Lakes: Custer" and "The Gate to the Great Lakes: Fox Islands" scenery packages. I want to buy them but I have no idea exactly what areas they cover. I mean, I have a general idea from reading the product descriptions but I want to know the full coverage area please. Thanks

I will not buy the plane unless I can get both versions. Even if they no longer wish to support it, they could still sell it with a disclaimer that it's no longer supported. There's no reason I see as to why they permanently deleted it and removed it from the store. I mainly want to fly it in XP11 because of all my scenery I have that's not XP12 compatible. At this point with all the scenery packages and modifications I made to XP11, I have it looking almost as good. I will be using XP11 for a very long time to come yet.

Yes I understand that you freeware developers make aircraft for free out of your own spare time and I really do appreciate it. I also realize you're under no obligation to continue to update to them. I just think it's sad that there's so many great aircraft out there that were never updated, if they were, I would be flying and enjoying them today. Heck, there's even a significant amount of payware aircraft that were never updated as well and I think they do have an obligation to update their aircraft. Like Carenado for example, so many cool planes but they never updated their aircraft flight models after Laminar improved the sim's flight model (Unless you buy REP's for the few that have them). I feel bad for all the people that spent a lot of money on those planes and never received updates to the aircraft's flight model.

This is why I don't use most freeware aircraft for X-Plane 11, they are so out of date, flight models have never been updated since Laminar changed the flight physics for the simulator. I believe it was v11.30 or v11.40 I think it was updated so I never use any aircraft that were never updated after that. It really sucks because there's so many cool freeware and payware aircraft for X-Plane 11 that were never updated.

I'm very interested in your DC-3 however I noticed that you pulled the X-Plane 11 version from the store since the X-Plane 12 version was released. I really want to own both version of the airplane because I still plan to continue to use X-Plane 11 for various reasons. Please, is there any way I can get the X-Plane 11 version? I would be willing to pay for a bundled pack containing both versions if I could get a bit of a discount.

Please, anybody??? [crickets chirping]

Hello, I really want to buy the Mentor T34C but I notice it's quite an old model. I was just wanting to know if the flight model is updated for X-Plane 11 version 11.50? I know at some point during development Laminar updated the X-Plane 11 flight model (I believe it was v11.30 but I could be wrong) so I don't like to buy aircraft that never had their flight models updated after that update. I am picky about having aircraft with accurate flight models. Thanks

I want to get the IXEG 737 but I would like to be able to own both the X-Plane 11 & 12 versions if possible. I see the X-Plane 11 version is now removed from the store. Please, is there any way to get both versions of the aircraft? I would be willing to pay for both if I could get some kind of package discount for buying both versions of the aircraft. I still use X-Plane 11 a lot for many reasons and I want this plane in both sims.

I want to get Terra Max for XP11 and right now I have Orbx trees installed. I read that Terra Max has it's own tree textures so will I have to uninstall my Orbx trees for Terra Max to work properly? I assume the seasonal effects will not work with other trees? Thanks

Thank you I appreciate it.

Ok I will, thank you. Where can I find their email address?

Hello, I just wanted to know if it's possible for me to get access to the XP11 version of the DC-3 when I buy the DC-3 V2? I still use XP11 often for various reasons and I will still be using it for quite a while as XP12 and it's 3rd party aircraft matures so I really want both versions of the plane. Thanks

Hi, I want to know can I get access to the XP11 737 Classic when I buy the new XP12 737 Classic? At least for a significant discount? I really want to have both versions because I still use XP11 for various reasons and I still will be using it for quite a while. Thanks

I really love the LES Saab 340, I fly it often. It's a beautiful aircraft that's easy for me to tell how much time, care and effort went into making this model. It's a full study level plane, all systems modeled, that has fantastic texture work inside and out, and the flight model is top notch. It's on a whole new level of it's own compared to the Carenado Saab 340. It's hands down the best Saab 340 ever made for a flight simulator. I would truly be so very sad if it's not updated for XP12. I would be willing to pay a reduced price for an upgrade.

Hey I have another question, is your Saab 340 going to be updated for X-Plane 12? Please tell me it is, I love that plane so much I would be heartbroken if it wasn't going to be. It's way too good of an aircraft to be left behind in the XP11 dustbin.

It looks awesome! I can't wait for the release. I am going to definitely buy it, thank you. Personally, I really hope to see more vintage aircraft like the DC-3 for X-Plane. It's one of the reasons I still use P3D and even FSX sometimes because I love vintage aircraft of all kinds. Imagine a Boeing 377 Stratocruiser for X-Plane like A2A made for FSX

The DC-3 is one of my favorite vintage aircraft. I own only the VSkyLabs C47/DC-3 and I've always wondered if the DC-3 by Leading Edge Simulations is better and if it's worth buying? One thing I do like about what I've seen in the LES DC-3 is that in the screenshots it looks like they've used more original instruments and gauges instead of the military variant instruments used in the VSkyLabs plane. I like that a lot. I would love to hear anyone's feedback whether you've tried one or the other or both planes.

Ahh I see now. Thank you!

Thank you. At least that explains the throttle issue. What about the yaw dampers though? I can't seem to engage it. When I move the sliders up to turn on, they just slide back down into the off position. Am I not doing something right?

I'm having the same issue. For me, I'm using the Logitech/Saitek throttle quadrant. When I first start the plane the throttle is in ground idle, but once I advance the throttle past the flight idle marker it won't go back down to ground idle. This also means I can't use the reversers either. I see there are the latches on the throttle which I assume is supposed to be used to allow the throttle to go back down but I can't figure out how to use them. I can click them so that the latches move up but I don't know how I'm supposed to move the throttle back down at the same time, it's impossible. I looked for Saab commands in the controls menu but I didn't see any for the latches. How do I get the throttle back down? Also, why won't the yaw dampers engage? When I try to turn it on by moving the sliders up, they just slide back down again in the off position.