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@Coop I'm unsure of how to make sure of that, is it just re-run the installer for the SR22 Entegra? I can check. I'll also look again shortly since I just re-imaged my PC (moved boot, swap and xplane to a NVME for better Perf) so I believe I have everything installed from the last week now. On another note, I got some dual encoders with push button from Propwash, and the Leo Bodnar board, and hooked one up so far, the rotary encoders work just fine on the Entegra (and make the GNS so much easier to use). The only issue I see is that they take a fair amount of motion for things like the heading bug because they don't pick up acceleration but really that's a small price to pay. Along with a set of 10" HDMI touch screens from Amazon so you can use the side buttons this should make a pretty nice setup for the system. I'm working on a layout to mount the screens and the encoders below my monitor, at the momen it will likely be a file to send to some place like SendCutSend and have them cut it out of metal.

thank you @coop. I'm not sure why it needs the coordinate it does on my end, I ended up just taking best guesses but now I have a reasonably good startup config so I'll leave it there.

@Coop I think I know what's going on. It's a combination of what you said, and then I think there's a difference in client area size calcs on the MFD vs the PFD, look at this screen shot (this time full size) the file that created it is included in the shot, and pasted in at the bottom of this. You can see that the client area in the MFD is a different size than it is in the PFD and yet they come up close to identical. Then there seems to be some issue where the lower right monitor has a different Y coordinate than the lower left, despite being able to easily drag windows straight across between them. Not sure why these values mostly work but they do. I loaded the full image into photoshop and then checked the client areas of the PFD and MFD and they're different more different than the numbers reveal, it feels like the PFD is counting the Non-client area (the title bar) and the MFD is not maybe? I haven't run it down further than this but suggest you try setting the two units to the same size and see if they come up the same on your system # libacfutils configuration file - DO NOT EDIT! mfd_h = 680 mfd_popup_at_start = 1 mfd_w = 1000 mfd_x = 1950 mfd_y = 0 pfd_h = 768 pfd_popup_at_start = 1 pfd_w = 1000 pfd_x = 695 pfd_y = 1440

Here's another experiment I tried changing the values and got something really interesting, I don't understand why the MFD_X and MFD_Y positioned it weher eit did given the PFD_X and Y positions # libacfutils configuration file - DO NOT EDIT! mfd_h = 600 mfd_popup_at_start = 1 mfd_w = 600 mfd_x = 50 mfd_y = 50 pfd_h = 768 pfd_popup_at_start = 1 pfd_w = 1000 pfd_x = 695 pfd_y = 1440

Here's a photo of how it comes up with the current settings: I tried shrinking the MFD way dow, the main monitor in windows is the upper wide screen, but it appears to be putting the window in the wrong place. If the lower left of the main monitor were 0,0 I'd expect to need a -y on both the PFD and the MFD but that does not work and when I move the window around and update it's settings with window manager it reflects the values I've placed here. # libacfutils configuration file - DO NOT EDIT! mfd_h = 700 mfd_nbzl_h = 768 mfd_nbzl_monitor_start = -1 mfd_nbzl_popup_at_start = -1 mfd_nbzl_w = 971 mfd_nbzl_x = 911 mfd_nbzl_y = 1440 mfd_popup_at_start = 1 mfd_w = 900 mfd_x = 1946 mfd_y = 1460 pfd_h = 768 pfd_nbzl_h = 768 pfd_nbzl_monitor_start = -1 pfd_nbzl_popup_at_start = -1 pfd_nbzl_w = 1000 pfd_nbzl_x = 695 pfd_nbzl_y = 1440 pfd_popup_at_start = 1 pfd_w = 1000 pfd_x = 695 pfd_y = 1440

I’ll give that a shot but note they’re the same w and h on the mfd and pfd and they are going to identical screens so they should be within the bounds

@Pattismyes I am 100% aware of how the coordinate systems work, but thank you for the thorough explanation. The issue remains all of the settings except MFD_Y functions. I manually positioned the windows and then used WindowMonitor to grab the positions. The PFD ends up in the correct place and the MFD is placed at the top of the largest screen but side to side in the correct location. as the pfd is in the correct Y location I would expect duplicating that would work but it does not

It seems like they're this but the MFD_Y isn't working it keeps ending up at the top of the main screen instead of in line with the PFD on the lower screens: mfd_h = 768 mfd_nbzl_h = 768 mfd_nbzl_monitor_start = -1 mfd_nbzl_popup_at_start = -1 mfd_nbzl_w = 971 mfd_nbzl_x = 911 mfd_nbzl_y = 1440 mfd_popup_at_start = 1 mfd_w = 1000 mfd_x = 1946 mfd_y = 1440 pfd_h = 768 pfd_nbzl_h = 768 pfd_nbzl_monitor_start = -1 pfd_nbzl_popup_at_start = -1 pfd_nbzl_w = 1000 pfd_nbzl_x = 695 pfd_nbzl_y = 1440 pfd_popup_at_start = 1 pfd_w = 1000 pfd_x = 695 pfd_y = 1440

What are the values for these if I want bezels shown but set the height are they PFD_W or PFD_POPUP_W? thanks

@Coop I just had a look into hooking up a random button to some of these controls, looks like this could work, but I did notice that in my interface both the MFD and the PFD are listed as PFD can't seem to take a picture of it though

Thanks for that info, I found a very very promising you tube video on the topic: (285) Easy way to add Dual Rotary Encoders with push button to Flight Simulator 2020, Prepar3d and X-Plane - YouTube I think you can easily use the same principle and zero code experience to wire up 4 rotary pushbutton encoders to wire up the Entegra displays, I'm also using two of these panels which I will try and get mounted into an enclosure: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0987468N2?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details Looks like adding a few push buttons only to that same board wouldn't be too hard, so I'll likely see if I can't make a quick approximation fo the DFC 90 on that same panel just to make things super easy.

Just wondering if I was to hook up something like this: Trackballs and Spinners :: Spinners :: SpinTrak Rotary Control (ultimarc.com) could I map it to the rotary inputs on the Entegra displays, or would I have to do something where I mapped it to a keypress and mapped the keypress to the control? I have a couple of 10" touch screens I'm using to pop those out (don't want to buy the premade units yet) and if I could bodge up a couple of rotary knobs that'd be fantastic thank you.