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Thanks, I'll keep trying.

Hi guys, I am still having problems. Why is it so difficult to get VNAV to work. It often just goes off and then it is impossible to reengage, with message like check altitude in the fmc and I have the correct altitudes set according to the legs page. Or I try the next applicable altitude. It just won't come back. Is it supposed to be so temperamental? Or are there some secret parameters I need to adjust?

Thanks very much guy's, this has all helped me great deal. I look forward to learning more. I guess it was a bit much for me to think I could just hop in a proper sim and actually be able to fly well. I have done a couple of auto lands now. And also some manual ones. It really is amazing what we have at our fingertips now. So visually appealing and technically appealing. And to Jan, sorry again for sounding so grumpy back then. Thanks again Michael

Hi Tony, thanks for the video. I just watched it. It does show that a landing like that is possible. I will have to check out simbreif because as it stands some of the points in your route don't seem to be available for me. "Not in database". Also, apparently, I don't have a co route folder. There is a lot of stuff to learn it seems. As I said earlier I was a complete novice in all this stuff but I am learning and it is all good. Your landing seemed pretty good, I thought. I am going to try that landing again now. Are some of the things in your video aftermarket things? Like the voice readback of checklists and the Navigraph popup and the floating FMC Thanks again, Michael.

Thanks Tony and others, I will be back at my computer in a day or so when I will give it all a good try. That route is from a Mike Ray book on the IXEG 737, but I am finding a lot of inconsistencies so think I will adopt your suggestion and just do some flying and forget the books. I think I have enough knowledge now, thanks to all you guys, to not get tripped up by every little difference. Michael

Hi Tony, thanks for the offer. I was trying to fly from KLAX 25L to KSFO ILS28R. via VTU BSR CARME ANJEE SKUNK BOLDR MENLO CEPIN AXMUL With a full CAT lll Landing. Also, I was trying to set up an approach to the airport using Jan's directions and the map. It was at 250 knots at 3000 ft. 20 NM away. My problem is hooking up with ILS and getting the auto land to work. Using VNAV and LNAV. But any help or tips would be much appreciated. Thanks, Michael.

Hi Jan, thanks for the reply, I appreciate your time. I don't think it is your job to teach me how to fly the plane but I do think that if I follow the included tutorials and follow books which were recommended as part of the package, books I paid for, I ought to be able to fly those tutorials. The point of tutorials is for those who can't fly, me for example. My complaints have been that I was trying to learn the recommended way and there were errors and inconsistencies in the lessons which made it difficult. I am sorry if my frustrations seem so negative toward your product, it is mostly just my frustration speaking. I really love the product and the way it looks and feels, which is why I have spent so much time trying. I did try some MSFS products and did have more success, where things seem to happen as described. However, it doesn't look as good or feel as good. And it runs out of memory being only 32 bit. I did show me though that I can do some things. But, I am really glad to hear your perspective in that the sim is accurate and that every one else fly's without problems. It encourages me to keep trying. Maybe the VNAV descent problems are what is tripping me up. I don't know enough. Yet. I do appreciate the support here too, so again sorry for sounding so negative. I shall try the tutorial videos, that may help. My real flying experience stopped shortly after my first solo in a Piper Tomahawk, so my flying experience is limited. But I love flying. What is the issue with VNAV descents. Is that maybe why I can't do a complete flight, including landing, using the automatic systems soon after takeoff. It is descent and hooking up with the ILS for CAT111 landing that seems to be the problem. Also, from your previous help on setting an approach, you said click FL CHG. Is that the same as LVL CHG? Anyway thanks again for the help regards, Michael.

I have tried what you said, setting 250 and LVL change and flew straight into the ground. Also, how do I activate a waypoint along the route so I can start just before it and start flying the Magenta Line. Again, the book says I should be able to double select it so that it becomes the active way point. MENLO coming into KSFO for example, but that doesn't seem to work, the plane wants to go back to the beginning. I'll try deleting the earlier ones. Also, what info does need to be in the FMC for your method to work? I have been trying for days now and have not managed to complete one single flight in any of the books or tutorials. There is always something. Oh well, one more time. Then, back to yank and bank maybe. Nope, straight into the ground after flipping around every where. Also, often when it resets, which is often, it starts with half the displays missing. I have to load another aircraft and then reload this one. I am going to try MSFS to see if it is just me being too stupid to understand books and tutorials and other instructions, or not. As I have said it is just one error after another. Thanks, Michael.

Thanks Jan I shall try that now. I don't get the VREF's on the placard. Weights range from 65-35 TONN which bare no relationship to anything I know about. And what is FL CHG. Is it the same as LVL CHG. I almost got down using VOR LOC and APP but speed was wrong and I bounced, a lot. Still bouncing even though speed 153.

Yes, this very thing happened to me and making exemptions in defender works. Michael.

Hi guy' again, I don't know if this is the right place to put this query but I am using IXEG all the time. I keep failing to get the auto land to work. I would like to keep trying from a reasonable approach distance rather than starting a whole new flight. The manuals say that I ought to be able to save a flight in a particular situation, precisely for this kind of scenario, but, while the save function does save 'some' of the parameters, many are missing. The FMC does not contain all the data it had at the save point. LEGS will be gone and various other bits too. And the plane will be in a different configuration. Is this normal, is it an X-Plane issue? It is not a very useful feature if this is the best it can do. Have tried several times. Any help appreciated. Michael.

I have just come across a thing called OpenSceneryX and am installing it now. This may fix the problem. The main problem is that the original scenery instructions didn't bother to mention this necessity. But, live and learn. Yep, it did fix the problem. That was where it was looking for files, pity I already decided to get a paid version. Later, Michael

Hi Tom, yeah, thanks for the reply, a rather philosophical reply, which is good. I will keep trying and suffering the learning pains. I haven't got the scenery to work yet but am still looking into it. I do like all the tech stuff but when it interferes with that which I am trying to learn at the time it is frustrating. Especially when it is a completely new topic, like scenery programming. I did look at the Log file but it is a bit confusing for me. It says it is looking for an art asset that doesn't exist and I can't find it in the folder, or any hint of where it could be. Here it is the file though. I am still having fun flying though, having just discovered that if one does not do the right actions in icing conditions, you will crash. Boom. Thanks again, Michael. Log.txt

Hi again, well, I said I wasn't going to get discouraged, but, I am. It seems that every step in following tutorials or recommend books results in some irregularity that takes time to work out. Then if something starts going well the sim will freeze and collapse. The main thing though is that the documentation doesn't reflect the actual product. The latest thing is being advised, in IXEG tutorial number three to use some addon on scenery so that things look better. No worries, and it's even free, but after going to the trouble of registering and downloading and unpacking and installing, does it work? No, it does not. "the following scenery has a problem and will not be loaded" So I get a message about "learn more" where I get to examine a log file to analyse the potential faults. Just what I wanted after spending hours trying to follow the previous tutorial only to have the whole thing lock up halfway through, just before the part I actually wanted to study, and crashed. I have spent so many hours trying to make sense of these little 'errors' . It seems that every single simple step requires hours of fault finding. Perhaps it is a good product for experienced users who understand these things and can just adjust, but I am not such and am getting frustrated. Sorry for whinging but when one gets told to, so to speak, RTFM, and the manual is dodgy, there you go.

Thanks Jan, that will be it. It did happen while modifying something while flying. The jerkiness goes away as soon as the exec key is pressed. I will do the defender thing now. Michael.

Hi Tom, no I won't get discouraged now that I know the reasons and reasonings behind what is going on thanks to your explanations. Describing things, complex things, without ambiguity can be surprisingly difficult. See how legal documents and stuff go on and on. Now I can look forward to learning how these things do work, variations and all. I have been doing a few flights that I have had to adjust the route through the legs screen, in a way slightly different to that being described and am now starting to see how things work a nd can make the required adjustments. Having said that I have completely failed to capture the localiser to do a CAT III landing despite thinking all was OK, but I will work it out. It is surprisingly good fun flying the plane using the 'systems' rather than having all ones attention taken by trying to fly (badly) manually. We can pop out for external views and watch it all happening in a nice smooth way and then look around at all the instruments doing their instrumenty things and such. I am having another possible 'bug' situation, where the whole sim locks up and becomes very jerky, with a movement every second or so. It isn't a frame rate issue but I shall investigate more before pursuing it here. It doesn't happen often. Thanks again, Michael.

Hi Tom, thanks for the reply, it was just the info I was looking for. I have no experience flying the big jets by properly using the tools such as the FMC and MCP. But I have been playing with sims for a long time, just flying around. MS FSX of course and DCS world for the military stuff. I love their A 10 Warthog. So, I don't really know anything about Navigraph or Aerosoft and the kind of data you refer to. Now I really like the look and feel of X Plane and IXEG and I thought I would give 'real' airline type flying a try. I did assume that the Mike Ray book was kind of an official guide done in conjunction, so thanks for clearing that up. I didn't realize that there could be so many variations on how the FMC could operate so I was worried that there was a bug or it just wasn't working as described, which meant I could be certain that anything else was working properly either or that I had done the right amount of the right things to get a flight going. As I said, I was a complete newbie in regard to SID's and STARS and couldn't to get any thing set up properly. Although I do have a better understanding now. I have X Plane 11 with IXEG 737 version 1.21. The tutorial I mentioned is in the IXEG Documentation folder in the X Plane/Aircraft folder. It is called 'Tutorial Flight 1 - Basic FMS and navigation', page 8 It says that, after entering the GWS figures along with the fuel weight and crz altitude in the PERF INIT page, " Press the EXECute key (lit) to confirm your entry" It says this before referring to any other page in the FMC. As I said, my one does not have the EXEC key lit at this point. After seeing the info you provided I have been playing around with the stuff Mike Ray was talking about and while it doesn't follow exactly the way he describes it, it does work if I do what you said about finding ACTIVATE on the LEGS or RTE page. As I said I was a complete newbie in all this so even a slight hiccup stymied me. But, I am getting the hang of it now, especially now that I know that there isn't really a fundamental problem so thanks very much for the help. Also, you have done a great job on this sim, it looks great and feels great and now that I am not so frustrated I am starting to have fun learning these different ways to fly. I look forward to learning more about Navigraph and Aerosoft and STARS and SIDS and all that navigation stuff too. So, I would be interested in your opinion on the accuracy of the tutorial I mentioned from IXEG itself but don't worry about the Mike Ray stuff, I think I can make it work with the info you gave here. Thanks again, Michael.

Also, am I posting this question in the wrong place? My question is about a possible bug and the answers have seemed to missed the point. In fact the answers were a bit dismissive and condescending and completely failed to address my issue. I already bought the PMDG sim after I couldn't get this working "as it should". If it fails in this regard I can't be sure it is behaving properly in any other way. I like the graphics of this one better so I hope I get a good answer to go on with it. I was told to come here for support if I had issues. Thanks again Michael.

No, you are incorrect. I know he does books for real planes. He also does books for flight sims. One of which was recommended by the seller and was part of a package. And, specifically, as I said before, for the IXEG sim. Called 'Sim Pilots Guide 737-300 IXEG Specifically designed for X-Plane. That is, a whole book by Mike Ray about the IXEG 737 SIM. My point here is, is that I am following "specific instructions" about this "exact sim" and it does not work as described. Is it a bug is it due to moving to X-Plane 11. Did he do it too soon. Can it be fixed. I need to know if the program is defective. And, can I ask you if you get the exec light come on when finishing the PERF INIT screen. Thanks, Michael.

Thank you for the reply. The problem is, is that I am following a tutorial where it says that the exec light should be on. When setting the parameters on the PERF INIT page it should come on to allow that data to be entered. The tutorial, from IXEG, says so. There is no route information at this stage. Also, I checked it against other sims and it does light up in the others. (I got different ones because was disappointed that IXEG wasn't working as it should. Also there is a point in another tutorial, by Mike Ray, who's book was recommended by the sim developers and is specifically for this sim. This occurs when entering departures in the dep/arr screen. Again, it should be lit when having entered the departure location and runway and SIDS, but no, it only activates after arrivals are entered. There may be more issues after this as well. VNAV not coming on maybe. I am trying to follow instructions specifically for this exact sim and unfortunately it doesn't behave the way it should. The first example is quite simple and it doesn't light up, and it seems as though it should. Thanks Michael

I just bought IXEG 737 and started doing tutorials to learn the systems. First by Mike Ray and then the included tutorial. In both cases the FMC does not do what is expected. For example when inputting ZFW and GW and fuel weight and cruise height the EXEC key should light up to allow data input. It doesn't. The other problem involves STAR waypoints in a Mike Ray book. I shall wait for some response though.