Jonnti46

I guess if you can actually recreate it that would be half the battle. VR really changed everything for me, as it is so real, with such good all round vision, I can practice real world exercises that normally are just not possible on a single monitor / like bad weather circuits etc or even just normal circuit flying. With your weather facilities and setting cloud bases to break cloud cover exactly at the minima - it becomes such a good practice environment. I can honestly say sometimes I almost forget I'm not in the real aircraft.

It does it with or without Vulkan I'm afraid. It is almost like something to do with the loading of the clouds as you get closer, changing perhaps from one type to another(?), for example as I was taking off, they were all fine, even the ones ahead (I was some way off them) then I looked to my left and just noticed one cloud starting to go funny, I moved my head from side to side slightly and it was changing in kind of layers, then as I went along a bit more, it sort of loaded and sorted itself out, then the ones in front started to do the same thing etc. I don't know how this is done technically or that helps shed further clues on it. Of course if you can't see this at all, there are many factors with VR / many backend settings it could also be. As I think I first mentioned, I never had this issue for a long time prior and I've been progressing with VR for must be a year now. So certainly a earlier version of SkyMax did not have this issue with VR - I'm just not sure at what point it happened, was probably near the Vulkan release which confused things a bit.

I'm about to test with Vulkan OFF, it is not the "glass" windscreen (for info), I stood up and could see it with my head outside the aircraft (so to speak). I'll let you know re Vulkan test shortly.

I have tried various things, including the latest version now, and selecting fast / soft clouds. And solid overcast. The issue is *only* really evident when you are just about or flying through the clouds. Screen shot is difficult being VR, but I could send a small video I've taken of the VR output. Can this system accept a video? It is as if the clouds suddenly change, like they are projected or imposed onto the windscreen of aircraft (even if reflections are off) into like up streaked squashed and slightly stretched up, overlapping as you get near them, its a really strange thing to see in VR, prior they look fine. I've tried various a/c and with and without glass reflections, the result is the same. And also I've tried changing GFX settings - nothing makes any difference. Normal XP clouds are 100% fine, it is only when using skymax clouds (although I've not tested every different texture set) I doubt it would make a difference. I should state this was all fine and working in VR prior to either Vulkan or just before the Vulkan update. I should actually test without Vulkan -

Pimax 5K XR / Nivida / RTX 2080Ti but also I see it with the vive as well headset. I did a lot of testing to try and get rid of it (different settings) I see there is a new release today which I’ll test, good point about different aircraft- i know of at least three that I’ve seen it on. I’ll try also default aircraft as well tomorrow when I try new version.

Hi I have seen others posted about the strange almost double vision effects of clouds in VR (especially cumulus or overcast conditions) they sort of come into the cockpit. Is there any workaround or perhaps a fix likely soon? I see its a known issue but was not addressed in previous two updates. I understand lots to do and maybe not many use VR - but it makes skymax pro unusable for VR - and once you fly xplane in VR it is difficult to go back! Other than that I have to switch to another weather generator which I don't really want to do if it is likely to be fixed? R. Jon (issue is not just limited to Vulkan)

Sorry - forgot to post the one warning, but think this is not relevant as it never appears again, and is at very start of a very long log. debug: 12.294: Firmware v16.09.27.0342 debug: 12.294: Machine ID: acd4d3c81e7e344cc001cf0c58d471ee warng: 12.299: GUI Read Key Protection Applied. debug: 12.308: X-Plugins OBJ8 Loader v15.01.11 debug: 12.530: * gxt.refresh().. debug: 12.540: gxt: AutoLoading.. debug: 12.541: gxt.load: Console debug: 12.542: gxt.load: ToolTray debug: 12.543: gxt.load: HotFix debug: 12.544: gxt.load: Mute debug: 12.545: gxt.load: Preferences debug: 12.546: gxt.load: RebootButton debug: 12.546: gxt.load: MAXX_RWC debug: 12.547: gxt.load: XA_Activation debug: 12.549: screen w/h:1024/768 warng: 12.568: gxt.load: ErrorReport: FAILED: ext_info is nil, bad link? debug: 12.569: gxt.load: Shell debug: 12.570: gxt: Completed AutoLoad.

I have checked the GizmoLog - there is no error like described that I can see. There is only one warning at top of log. Plus I have had this happen when SMPv3 has been disabled. All plugins other than Gizmo disabled. All I know is it *only* started to happen after installing IXEG737. Not really sure what to do - it is a great shame as it cost a fair bit and it seems not to work. X-Avaition support do not respond. Is that normal? Or this time of year? Is it better to try and contact the developer of IXEG737? Not sure who that is? Or perhaps the programmer of Gizmo? Bit lost - afraid I am knew to x-plane and never had any problem until now. I think the IXEG737 is great / flys just like the 737-400. I do have a Mac Pro but not installed x-plane 10 on that / I could try to rule out this windows machine but it is a big job to go through all that. Plus this machine is about 6months old and I never had a single issue with it - very stable machine. But if no one else (in general) is having this issue it must be something my end? Out of interest are we talking thousands of users of this product or just a handful? The only thing I could try is *completely* uninstalling SMPv3? I'm kind of loathed to buy v4 as I only bought v3 five days ago! It was a bit unfair as when I bought it there was nothing on purchase page that v4 was about to be released so I unwittingly bought v3 five days before v4 at the same price as v4! X-Aviation say I have to buy v4 again with 50% off -hmmm....

I just downloaded the IXEG737 today after purchase, so the install is "as is". I would have thought it has the latest plugin? How would I either get a older version or a newer version of the Gizmo plugin? Is the only way to buy SkyMaxxProv4 ?

Hi It just crashed again, same thing - very odd. I did perhaps 1hr of circuits in it without issue (this time with plugins enabled as I wanted to see if this had any relevance) and it was fine, then I set-up for a very short A to B flight, at about FL110 / CRZ / 15mins into flight x-plane froze. I have enclosed the log but can't see any reason myself for this. As I said before, it was working fine for two weeks before I installed the 737 (which is just great apart from this). I have done many A to B flights in this area without issue. Hope someone can see something... R. Jon Log.txt

Hi Hope this is correct forum area to post this (afraid new to this forum). x-plane (latest v10.5.2). Up until now, I have not had any issues / crashes or freezes with Xplane until this point. Today I purchased the IXEG 737. The issue seems to be related only to flying this aircraft. Usually quite a long way into the flight at cruise level suddenly x-plane freezes. The only way is to quit x-plane is via the task manager thereafter. No other plugins are active. I have other addons like the 757 and have not had any issues with that. I wonder if anyone has had this issue? I don't think this is anything to do with pilot entry (I'm not touching or changing anything when this happens). A/c is flying a normal route in LNAV and VNAV. It does seem to happen 20mins after a flight begins, last crash happened 45mins into the flight. It appears never to happen in early stages...Very frustrating as I can't complete any A to B route. Love the add-on but this makes it unusable. This is on a windows 7 pro machine with i7 3770K running at 3.5Ghz / 16MB mem and a GTX 980 Ti card (latest Nvidia drivers) - it is very stable, so I am not sure what is causing the issue. Just fishing for some ideas... ? If tried winding back various rendering settings but makes no difference, and CPU and GPU are running well under 40%. More like 28% when this happens. Below windows report. Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: X-Plane.exe Application Version: 10.5.2.0 Application Timestamp: 5806eee0 Fault Module Name: X-Plane.exe Fault Module Version: 10.5.2.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 5806eee0 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 000000000010ff33 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 2057 Additional Information 1: 7148 Additional Information 2: 71484723a0237eb80d14857be895dffa Additional Information 3: d329 Additional Information 4: d329c705b9266103884aa000a9e79b0b Regards Jon