Ok dear shepherds, here's a talking sheep from your herd: I already know for a long time what the "Best of.." on x-plane.org is and that it not stands for the "best" addon. I also know what X-Plane can't and can possibly do thanks to the interweb, google and youtube, etc, etc. The web is larger than x-plane.org&x-pilot.com. I also own FSX *and* X-Plane and for me they are *different* products with different merits. They are *not* mutually exclusive and I rather not want to evangelized. I bought the MU-2 and love it but also bought RealAirs Duke and love it also. I just play with either one of them when I like it. The Duke because is such a nice well rounded package and the MU-2 because of the constant minute corrections I have to make to steer it right (= the flightmodel) and the "Gosh, I am really flying" feeling when I look outside. For me the org is more of a place for DIY airplane hobby-ists, some technical support and a nice big library with some real gems. It has a bit sloppy store tacked to it with some good and some mediocre products. This forum is in my view more of a gathering of very talented developers (with a grudge). I do see the underlaying tensions but to me they fall under the large category of "Interweb Community Drama" and thus solvable with a good old fashioned bilateral face to face talk. There is room enough for both the org and this place and please my dear shepherds, stop the bickering and start producing nice stuff and let there be peace, its almost Christmas after all. Best regards, Your not so stupid black sheep. btw, I had a very good laugh on the sarcasm of the first few post in this topic. But don't let this forum become a place of anti-org sentiments, point your rants at something else. I personally would like to see some more WIP stuff, and more in depth development talks. If you have to evangelize anybody its new developers. Time to walk the dog and the maybe fly the 727 i bought in Captain Sims yearly 9.99 sale. Puh!! ;D