Totally Jim! Agree that a saab CAN sometimes take that long to start, but would more likely be worse case of a cold engine and/or poor external power output such as a battery cart as opposed to a GPU or even better/quicker start, aircraft batteries as this is a series start of 48V. Why wouldn't you trim the time down on the sim for minimal fuss on the ground? As for the video, not sure why he would have done a cross-gen start with a serviceable GPU on the ground though, unless it had poor voltage output/recovery during the first start (which he didn't monitor). Im not bitching. Back when I originally made the comment of how long the LES Saab takes to get airborne I was just a bit frustrated in finding out that you couldn't save situation or reposition the aircraft (in the air) with the engines running. For instance if all you wanted to do was practice multiple instrument approaches from a position, in practice for say a check coming up (thats the only reason I purchased Xplane and the Saab add-on, not for leisure), its not possible, you need to go through the whole start sequence each time you want to position to a different airport. Again the LES team has put together a state of the art aircraft for xplane that is so close to the real thing, its extremely impressive. Im not having a dig, just putting my thoughts on the forum. Thanks.