lawson-stone Posted October 11, 2024 Report Posted October 11, 2024 I just got the Sundowner 2.5 and however much I turn the panel brightness knobs I still can't seem to brighten up the panel and instruments. They are unreadable they are so dark.
ilias.tselios Posted October 12, 2024 Report Posted October 12, 2024 22 hours ago, lawson-stone said: I just got the Sundowner 2.5 and however much I turn the panel brightness knobs I still can't seem to brighten up the panel and instruments. They are unreadable they are so dark. Yes we can pump up the brightness, but can you post a picture with the lights at full intensity?
lawson-stone Posted October 14, 2024 Author Report Posted October 14, 2024 Here's a screen grab of the panel. The plane is started up and running, the two light knobs below the panel are turned full to the right. If it's just a matter of tweaking a value in PlaneMaker, I'm comfortable doing that. I just didn't want to be heedlessly poking around in it.
lawson-stone Posted October 31, 2024 Author Report Posted October 31, 2024 So I'm guessing I'm just out of luck on this point? Nothing possible to make the panel lights brighter?
ilias.tselios Posted November 1, 2024 Report Posted November 1, 2024 I think this is mostly due X-Plane's "dark cockpit" issue. X-Plane does not show any extra lighting during the day, whatever you've fully turned on the lights or not. Expecting Laminar to fix it.
lawson-stone Posted November 1, 2024 Author Report Posted November 1, 2024 Thanks! Still enjoy flying it.
lawson-stone Posted January 25 Author Report Posted January 25 On 11/1/2024 at 5:35 AM, ilias.tselios said: I think this is mostly due X-Plane's "dark cockpit" issue. X-Plane does not show any extra lighting during the day, whatever you've fully turned on the lights or not. Expecting Laminar to fix it. I don't think this is really the answer. All may other XP12 planes have a nicely lit panel and working brightness controls. On the Sundowner, no lighting controls have any effect unless the flight is taking place at night. This is very frustrating and though I love this plane and appreciate how faithfully it reproduces the expected flight characteristics, having to pause and zoom in just to look at an instrument is becoming too frustrating. I fly this less and less because of this issue. Maybe I'm the only one who has it, maybe nobody else flies from the traditional panel, but for me this has become a deal-breaker. I am really sorry because the sim clearly has a ton of good work invested in it.
ilias.tselios Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 On 1/25/2025 at 6:58 PM, lawson-stone said: I don't think this is really the answer. All may other XP12 planes have a nicely lit panel and working brightness controls. On the Sundowner, no lighting controls have any effect unless the flight is taking place at night. This is very frustrating and though I love this plane and appreciate how faithfully it reproduces the expected flight characteristics, having to pause and zoom in just to look at an instrument is becoming too frustrating. I fly this less and less because of this issue. Maybe I'm the only one who has it, maybe nobody else flies from the traditional panel, but for me this has become a deal-breaker. I am really sorry because the sim clearly has a ton of good work invested in it. Depending on the lighting. If the instrument is backlit, will look brighter even in the day if you turn on instrument lighting. Here though, the instruments are not backlit, but each one has 1-2 lamps in front that cast light on the instrument. This light has no effect under day lighting, because of X-Plane.
lawson-stone Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 Well it appears that (a) i'm the only one on this site with any interest in this problem and (b) it's all X-Plane 12's fault so there's nothing to be done. I'm getting the message loud and clear that this cannot or will not be addressed. Which means this (otherwise) excellent sim will likely not be flown much. I have to be able to see the instruments. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be confrontational but the traditional panel of this plane is unflyable for those reasons. This is very disappointing.
ilias.tselios Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 You may try to toggle reflections to low, to make instruments more readable. https://airfightergr.github.io/les_c23_docs/gui/. It is very well known across X-Plane's community that, currently, there is an issue with X-Plane's dark cockpits. Also it is very well known that Laminar is working to fix this, hopefully in the next update.
lawson-stone Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 Thanks. I've also basically been flying the glass cockpit version. I gave up on the traditional panel.
Jabari Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 (edited) On 2/14/2025 at 3:22 PM, lawson-stone said: Thanks. I've also basically been flying the glass cockpit version. I gave up on the traditional panel. It looks like the next release of XPlane (12.2.0) is addressing the dark cockpit issue finally! Edited April 18 by Jabari
Matchstick Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 The 12.2.0 beta is available now and worth testing if only to provide feedback to plane devs an LR on how well the built-in cockpit lighting fixes are working for you.
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