larjeet Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) just wondered if anyone has any experience with the Thrustmaster T.16000M joystick ? I can find lots of info on their HOTAS sticks but not much on this basic Joystick . Edited January 8, 2012 by larjeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yes i use one. I got tired of potentiometers wearing out on my old Saitek and Thrustmaster flight sticks, so specifically looked for hall sensors this time. The sensitivity is very good, and paired with a non linear control it makes very precise control a lot easier.A downside for me is that it is not as comfortable as my old Saitek Cyborg, which had a multitude of bits you could alter to get it to fit your hand well. As an example, i have difficulty getting my thumb to reach the hat witch which i always use for trim.Its a very well built unit though, and feels very solid, unlike the old cyborg which is not as sturdy.I'd recommend trying to find one in a local shop to see how it fits your hand, but if precision takes priority over comfort for you its a good choice.Hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larjeet Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Ok thanks I am currently using a Microsoft siwinder force feedback 2 with the xforce plugin on XP10 but its not consistant and sometimes gets on your nerves and your hand gets tired and jumpy.Thanks Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larjeet Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Tonka purchased one today and was surprised at how solid it feels . I did what you recomended and tried it on for size at the store and my thumb must be longer than yours no problem reaching Hat switch.Thanks Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Cool, glad my sort of review helped! I can trim nose down easily, but i struggle with getting my thumb high enough to trim nose up. Like you say, i must have shorter thumbs!Hope it serves you well! Edited January 30, 2012 by Tonka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 You push the hat switch forwards for trim-up! This is blasphemy. This is madness!Also I keep thinking your avatar is a Longbow Apache. I blame the very narrow viewing angle on this laptop's screen, for turning the car into a silhouette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kallinen Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Just orderd one of these, my son was in need of a joystick and I decided to upgrade and found the Thrustmaster T.16000M at Radio Shack.com.Should be here Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larjeet Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Jim I have had this for a few weeks now and I am still happy with it I reminds me of a microsoft Sidewinder I have had a few of them and am wondering if Thrustmaster built the Sidewinders for Microsoft . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kallinen Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Have only used Saitek sticks for the past 11 years. Giving my Cyborg Eve to my son, Can`t even remember how long I have had it. Still works great. We`ll see how it feels when it gets herein a couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kallinen Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) HAT switch for trim ? I have always used my Saitek Cyborg Evo HAT switch for view controls. Edited January 31, 2012 by Jim Kallinen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larjeet Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Me to actually one nice thing about the thrustmaster stick is the 12 button on the base I have assigned three on the right as left trim up center trim take off and right as trim down. If for some reason you mess up setting the trim just hit the center button and start over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Yep, hat switch for trim, just like real fighters. Hands On Throttle And Stick, or just HOS, as i don't have a separate throttle!Push the hat switch forward to trim the nose down, and hat switch left for aileron trim left, and vice-versa.I use the mouse in the 3D cockpit for looking around, might have to look into Track IR one of these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larjeet Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I never use mouse view but allways wondered why someone has never made a plugin for mouse wheel trim though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris k Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Well, mouse wheel used to be throttle, and everyone wished they could change it; but alas, Mousewheel<>Throttle was apparently hard coded in XP7, XP8, XP9, etc..So now in response to all the requests, for XP10, Austin completely removed it; so now the mouse wheel has no function whatsoever.It's a FEATURE =)- CK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kallinen Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) My stick arrived today and has a throttle slider behind stick. Going to take some getting use to after so many years using my old Saitek Cyborg Evo. This stickfeels so tighter and the movement more controled. But also feels fat to my hand compared to the Evo. Have already reset it to run XP10 and default yaw controlwas set using the throttle. The twist controlled the throttle. So they were resest, but all my button presets carried over. Edited February 2, 2012 by Jim Kallinen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larjeet Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Yes i use one. I got tired of potentiometers wearing out on my old Saitek and Thrustmaster flight sticks, so specifically looked for hall sensors this time. The sensitivity is very good, and paired with a non linear control it makes very precise control a lot easier.A downside for me is that it is not as comfortable as my old Saitek Cyborg, which had a multitude of bits you could alter to get it to fit your hand well. As an example, i have difficulty getting my thumb to reach the hat witch which i always use for trim.Its a very well built unit though, and feels very solid, unlike the old cyborg which is not as sturdy.I'd recommend trying to find one in a local shop to see how it fits your hand, but if precision takes priority over comfort for you its a good choice.Hope that helps! I found a little mod that might help This joystick comes with an extra thumbrest and cover for using with left hand I removed the thum grip alltogether and used just the covers I find this is more slender and can also be used with both hands it also nmakes it easier to reach the hat switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazen Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 My stick arrived today and has a throttle slider behind stick. Going to take some getting use to after so many years using my old Saitek Cyborg Evo. This stickfeels so tighter and the movement more controled. But also feels fat to my hand compared to the Evo. Have already reset it to run XP10 and default yaw controlwas set using the throttle. The twist controlled the throttle. So they were resest, but all my button presets carried over.Not sure if you're still here, but after a year, how do you feel about the T.16000 now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kallinen Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Not sure if you're still here, but after a year, how do you feel about the T.16000 now?Works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazen Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Works great. Heh, I think you just made the recommendation for my first joystick. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbird Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I have it. It is the best and less expensive joystick I ever had. I agree completely with Tonka (post #2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpil0t Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I own a lot of different joysticks (Warthog, G940, Aviator...) but the T16000 is the one I use 99% of the time for civilian flight sim. The stick is smooth and precise. I'm using it with my left hand (despite being a rightie) and use my right hand for mouse/keyboard and thrust levers. This is the perfect combo for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Pham Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) This is the way to go, in civilian planes we fly with left hand I do the same, but I use the stick gas thing so I have the stick between my legs so I can use it in my left hand and use the right hand for gas. But when I'll have external gas thing I'll put the stick to my left, as in the Cessna Corvalis TT. What is good with the T16000 is that it is a stick for both left handed and right handed, there are parts to change it from left to right handed include, and it is very easy to do (a screw to remove, you change the side of the thing, you put another part, and you put the screw back. Less than 5 minutes to do that... I'll have to move mine to left handed, but I have to find this plastic part back Edited October 30, 2013 by Julien Pham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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