VFR and ILS

[ancadel]

Since I upgraded to version 9.31, I can't find the VFR or ILS option for the landing approach.

Can anybody tell me how to select them . Thanks

[samen]

Go into location>select global airport for vfr click on 3nm rwy XXX and for ils click on 10nm in front of the particular runway.

[JBalsa]

VFR ILS? Is that even legal?

I think you may be a bit mistaken, VFR means Visual Flight Rules, to land in VFR you use a circuit, and you don't make use of ILS systems to land. A localizer maybe, but not a fully fledged ILS approach.

Now to make a full ILS approach, you should be IFR, which stands for instrument flight rules, in this case, you don't use outside references. In the IFR situation, you use an ILS (Localizer and Glideslope) to land.

As for selecting the runway approaches, do what Samen said, select 3NM for a VFR approach, and 10NM if you're doing an IFR ILS approach.

[Nova]

VFR has nothing to do how you land.

As long as your aircraft has the capability to perform an ILS approach, then why shouldn't you use it?

You can do a visual, NDB DME, VOR or ILS approach as long as your aircraft is equipped with the right instruments.

[gilbenl]

VFR has nothing to do how you land.

As long as your aircraft has the capability to perform an ILS approach, then why shouldn't you use it?

You can do a visual, NDB DME, VOR or ILS approach as long as your aircraft is equipped with the right instruments.

Well, actually, while VFR vs. IFR has nothing to do with how you actually land the plane, it does have A LOT to do with how you get to the runway. It's certainly damn near impossible to set up for a propper Instrument approach from 3nm out; hence the 10nm option. So, yeah, the actual flare, touchdown, and rollout are the same, but everything leading up to that is COMPLETELY different.

Just wanted to clear things up.

-Nick

[GregHoward]

Though it's not practical to join an ILS from inside the Final Approach Fix (usually about four miles from the runway) it's not impossible especially if you are flying a general aviation aircraft. I wouldn't recommend it in the Concord or a 747 though.

The prior posts are correct in mentioning that VFR flight may fly ILS approaches provided they don't interfere with any established procedures for the airport or airspace. Larger airports often have quite complex VFR procedures to maintain the safe and expiditios flow of traffic. It's been my experience that  an ATC unit will clear a VFR aircraft to fly any approach requested provided traffic and workload permit. They issue a clearance such as "GABC is cleared the ILS 12 maintain VFR at all times". Meaning that the pilot is still responsible to fly the aircraft in VFR weather and to mintain visual separation from other traffic.

Using an ILS is offer very prudent during VFR operations such as night flying. If you haven't tried a Precision Radar Approach. (PAR) you should try that out. It allows you to fly to precision approach minimums (typically 200 ft. ) using only your radio and the normal flight instruments.

Cheers, Greg

[GregHoward]

Spelling errors due to my fat thumbs

I should mention that I'm most familiar with Canadian regulations. Canada is an ICAO country, so the regulation closely mirrors many other countrys.

[He who is not welcome!]

VFR ILS? Is that even legal?

I think you may be a bit mistaken, VFR means Visual Flight Rules, to land in VFR you use a circuit, and you don't make use of ILS systems to land. A localizer maybe, but not a fully fledged ILS approach.

Now to make a full ILS approach, you should be IFR, which stands for instrument flight rules, in this case, you don't use outside references. In the IFR situation, you use an ILS (Localizer and Glideslope) to land.

As for selecting the runway approaches, do what Samen said, select 3NM for a VFR approach, and 10NM if you're doing an IFR ILS approach.

Actually, there's nothing wrong or illegal at all with 'hooking on' to a ILS while flying a visual approach.  The pilot remains visually responsible for the approach but the ILS can still be used.  In good weather and low traffic, airline pilots are often cleared for visual approaches, but if a ILS is available, they'll often fly visually onto the ILS and still use it.

It's the other way around that would cause a problem; being cleared for an ILS (or other instrument) approach and inseadt just flying visually.  Controllers will be factoring your exact position on the ILS, when vectoring other traffic.

Cheers,

David