Jan: thanks for the help. Actually I should have made clear that I did actually physically remove all plugins from the resources/plugins folder, not just disabled them in the plug-in manager. My problem is not necessarily with the joystick as the throttle and speed brake etc will not move with the mouse or keyboard. Interestingly I have X-Plane 11 on an old Mac mini and on there the Laminar 737 works fine, even with a plugged in joystick. So I copied the aircraft Laminar 737 files from my Mac Mini to the PC and they did not work! This is very frustrating.