Rick310 I agree with you on the buying of ac's that only last until the next version of X-Plane comes out. Yes I know a few of the authors of planes make the past planes free for the next x-plane up grade but it takes awhile for that to happen. I too have spend some heavy chump change on my sim and other downloads. The best thing I did was build my own PC for just flying. It cost me about $1200 but I made sure it had all the fastest and best systems available at the time and this was in 2022, best thing I ever did. I do have XP12 from the day it came out and still use XP11 for most of my flighting because like you I have paid for way to many XP11 planes that won't fly in 12 at this time. I also purchased MSFS and for me it was a disappointment, it all looks great but for me it takes to much time to set up to go fly and with all it's beauty, to me it is still only a game and not a real flight simulator and yes I know they don't claim to be a flight simulator. I have had (3) real planes in the past, Skyhawk, Skylane 182 and my last was the Comanche 250, so flying sim or game other than then X-Plane is a waste of my time. I am also an electrician that became a electrical contractor and later became a general contractor and that lasted for 38 years, retired now and must have over 3000 hours on my X-Plane sim. I was trying to format a external drive on my computer about 3 weeks ago and the format went to my c drive by mistake, it cost me over $1200 dollars for a computer service to recover 90% of my data, still had to reload all and any programs I needed so I know about the cost of play flying but I love it. I also lost all of my online Flight Log Book. You are free to contact me if you want. Cheers