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Wow, Cessna729, what a great site I was not aware of.... thank you for sharing. Cheers, AJ

I just tested TCS and it works great. Thank you all for the input. Cheers, AJ

Gentlemen, When I purchased JS32 I was terrified to find out that Saitek panels do not work but as Javier said he modelled things so most of the functions are controlled via cockpit, I have tried and after few hours now I have no problem changing the frequencies using radio knobs in the cockpit. Of course it would be nice to have Saitek Panels operational, we will see what Javier will say on that. Cheers, AJ

Thank you very much pcartier1960, this is exactly what was asking about. I will try it tonight. cheers, AJ

Hi Steve, Thank you very much for the links, I will read the related material but what I have meant is how to physically do it in case on JS32 while on autopilot if you or anybody else have tried it yet. Cheers, AJ

Gentlemen, Could anybody explain it in more details? Below is the description from manual. When exactly I would use that feature ( after assigning the button or key to the function) ? Thank you. Cheers, AJ T.C.S. CAPTION - Shows the TCS push button is pressed. TCS is the Touch Control Steering, that allows the pilot to take control of the aircraft to manually change aircraft attitude without dissengaging autopilot system. This is a button is not present inside the 3D of the plane but the user have to assign to a joystick button. It is located inside Joystick&Equipment menu in xplane, inside autopilot area, and is called Control_wheel_steer. When the servos of the autopilot are on, even a simple HDG mode is selected, it will control the pitch of the plane. So to modify it, pilot has to press this CWS (TCS) button to exit momentarily from autopilot without disconnecting it. Once you unpress the CWS button, the plane will catch the old (or new) commanded autopilot mode.

Wow, how long was the flight? Now I see the not so bright side of being an airline pilot, well I guess it is a trade off. Cheers, AJ

Nice story, Cruster. Cheers, AJ.

Input from Intrance on V speeds For reference with the real aircraft.... Speed limits for the flaps on the JS32 are: 10 - 170kts 20 - 160kts 35 - 150kts And max gear extension speed is 160kts. If icing is suspected, use max flaps 20 and increase Vref with about 10 knots. This should normally work out quite nicely in the real thing, so you can give it a shot in X-Plane. The 130-140kts that cruster mentions is more in line with my experience. You should see between 35% and 40% torque (again, in the real aircraft).

Gentlemen, I am new here in the X-Aviation forums but I have read many threads so far and I came up with the idea to ask moderators to make that thread sticky. We have few real life pilots providing their input here and I think that it would be a great reference to put all that input in one thread. I hope moderators agree and make it sticky. Thank you. Cheers, AJ Icing conditions are on real life JS32 defined: Any form of visible moisture and,IOAT (in flight/on ground) is less than +10 degrees CGeneral operating procedures when in icing conditions (in flight/ on ground) are to turn on propeller and engine/elevator ice protection, including continuous ignition. An important limitation is for Airframe de-icing must be OFF during takeoff and below 200 ft on approach to landing. This is more for maximizing engine performance during critical phases of flight. As with all aircraft the J32 comes with standard icing condition warnings. But, the J32 is prone to ice build up on top of the wing behind the boots. This does dramatically degrade performance and will easily see airspeed drop by 10+ knots. We typically turned the autopilot off when flying in icing conditions because we had tactical sense of how the aircraft was performing vs. the autopilot trying to overcompensate. We also encountered ice bridging when de-ice set to AUTO cycle where the ice would form a layer between the expanded boot and the ice. This would make it hard to shed ice from the leading edges. We routinely had to switch to manual mode and wait longer than 6 seconds between cycles to ensure enough ice was accumulated before trying to shed it. We typically experienced a significant hit in performance anytime we stayed in icing for long periods of time.

Hi Cooley, Thank you very much for your input, invaluable information for me. We already know the X-Plane limitations as far as icing and flying JS32 for a longer time in icing conditions ends up in crash no matter what I do because of engine decreased performance, I was simply watching torque dropping slowly until the plane stalled. In other words, no flying JS32 in icing conditions for more than maybe 10 minutes, at least for now, maybe in the future Javier can touch some things up if X-Plane model allows it. As far as banking flying on autopilot .... the problem is solved. Since my tests were made in icing conditions I had the throttle set to the max, so obviously with that huge torque coming from both engines, in order to stay on track, all left aileron trim was used. Last night I was flying in normal conditions and I was engaging and disengaging autopilot many times, all was great. I can tell that constant trimming is required every time the power settings change but that makes it more challenging and I do not mind it, especially after you said that JS32 is a handful in real life for a rookie pilots. Thank you very much for the input. I will make a new post called "JS32 Real life pilots input" and ask moderators to make it sticky. I think that it would be great to have all this information from real life JS32 pilots in one place so we can refer to it as needed. Cheers, AJ

Hi Cooley, I loved your Good and Bad memories entries , some made me smile and others just wonder... 250 KIAS trick, I have to try it, I did not know you guys do stuff like that in real life... No lave... THAT IS a bad thing, all models no lav or you meant lav out of service? Love your best memory... Thanks you very much for sharing it here. Cheers, AJ

Gentlemen, I have read word by word the post and the replies and I consider it very beneficial for JS32 users. @ Intrance: I love your comments but as Javier already said, there are many good things in JS32 that beat hands down stock X-Plane aircraft and majority if not all freeware and many payware aircraft. I believe that your comments, since they come from real life pilot, will give Javier a better picture of the plane dynamics and he might use some of them in perfecting the JS32. On the other hand, I have read many times that Javier DID NOT intend to make the plane to be like real one because of the X-Plane limitations, lack of ability to touch in dark ( no sarcasm here ...lol) and lack of spherical vision in X-Plane. This is simply how I see it, you post your comments , negative and positive, Javier will use SOME of them if he wants to, nobody gets hurt. @Javier: I perfectly understand the explanations and reasoning you provided as a response to Intrance's post and I agree 100% I am only a student pilot and have no real life flying experience but as a aviation enthusiast and a heavy simmer , I can tell you and I am not afraid to say it ..... your JS32 is THE BEST X-Plane I have purchased and flew till now out of all X-Plane creations and I have quite a few of them. On a side note, I flew yesterday for many hours and everything works great, I will make a reply on trim settings in the other thread. I am having a great time flying JS32 and you made it possible. Now, I see some guys cocking their guns ..lol, I would pay twice of the price for JS32 if I had to or even more because what I bought is worth every penny. Thank you Javier for your work and thank you Intrance for a great input. Cheers, AJ

That's me .. I just did a little bit more of testing and came into one conclusion, if the plane stays too long in icing conditions, with all available deicing and anti icing systems on, it will end up in crash due to not being able to maintain speed... Cooley, would you mind to elaborate a bit on the subject? ( icing) Thank you. Cheers, AJ

I can only tell about the Javier's JS32 but so far I already learned many things. One of them is like you mention, constant trim change with the power change which is great because it keeps you busy. Do you mind to share a bit of bad and good memories in real JS32? Thank you for the input. Cheers, AJ

Javier, thank you very much for ALL your replies, they were almost immediate. I will do more testing and I will post the results here. I want to make sure it repeats before I ask. Cheers, AJ

Gentlemen, I was reading a manual and I saw the settings that does not cause any damage to gear or control surfaces ( see attached). Is there any particular reason not to have them on ( more realistic in my opinion) in case of JS32? Thank you. Cheers, AJ

Hi Cruster, you should try to fly JS32 in icing conditions, totally new experience. Getting really addicted to that plane..lol Cheers, AJ

Hi Tom, Thank you very much for detailed and very interesting reply. The fact is that I am not even close to know about engine systems but the way you explained it, I understand. I also understand better now the X-plane icing simulation process. I am looking forward to Javier's reply on dataref and thank you again very much for your help, greatly appreciated. Cheers, AJ

Thank you, Intrance. What happens if Anti-ice/IGN is on but I do not fly through precipitation but the outside air temperature is within icing range and there's visible moisture (clouds etc) Is that kind of being overprotective? Cheers, AJ

I still do not know ( it is not described in detail in manual ) what is the difference between these two systems described below. • Anti-ice - Allows hot air to flow through air inlet duct, compressed air inlet, and fuel controltemperature / pressure sensor of related engine.• Anti-ice / IGN - Engine with continuous ignition. Does it mean that Anti-ice / IGN option has all that the same abilities as Anti-ice but it is used when ignition is set to continuous? In other words, when would I use Anti-ice and when Anti-ice / IGN ? Thank you. Cheers, AJ

Gentlemen, I read the manual, I know about control lock but I am still confused about the trim. I have Saitek yoke with two buttons assigned for the trim ( elevator and ailerons) What exactly should I do to trim JS32 assuming that yoke is calibrated before JS32 is loaded? I hope I am not cross posting here, if yes, please remove this post. Thank you. Cheers, AJ

Gentlemen, I need some help. My problem is a little bit related to what I recently posted " When speed is your friend..' When I fly on autopilot for a while, plane gets into a heavy left bank ( for the straight flight) and stays in that attitude. The bank must be around 15 deg or more, it is very clearly visible on attitude indicator and from chase view. When I disconnect autopilot, as expected, plane banks abruptly to the right, no matter how much trim I use for ailreon, I am not able to trim the plane for straight and level flight. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Cheers, AJ

Cruster, I understand but what was your weather like the one I described? Flying at no icing conditions so far was very easy, the ice made a drastic difference, that is why I posted. Cheers, AJ Intrance, my post was related to the JS32 modeled, not a real one. I like all comments be it referencing to a model or real plane but others might not like it. Thank you for response. Cheers, AJ

Hello again. Below is the discovery that took me most of the Christmas Day and I do not regret spending this time. I was taking off from KOKC climbing to 3000 and flying South, then I would turn around and intercept localizer as published per ILS or LOC RWY35R Approach Plate for KOKC. Ceiling was 1882, visibility 8.6 SM wind 344 at 17 gusts 2 small turbulence. Pictures are self explanatory but I just wanted to point out 3 things. 1. I had all ant and de icing equipment on 2. I have gear overspeed note since it happened on the first "successful" approach and I did not restart the plane, just continued 2 more times after the full stop. 3. The most important part, I was flying maximum allowed ( which Javier said that there is not really good reference for and Cessna729 provided some V speeds) speeds allowed by X-plane settings for not ripping control surfaces off. As you can see , with 2 notch of flaps and gear down I was flying around 170 KIAS. That was the "trick" that let me successfully fly the approach and land. I hope my post did not put any misleading information on how to fly properly JS32. I just posted it hoping that others might learn from my experience. Javier and Cameron, once again, thank you for an excellent job on that plane. Cheers, AJ