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Had my first ctd while entering a waypoint. Was inbound loww venen 2w - entered wp after nerdu SNU for rw 34 then the rw changed and I was sent to wp ww911 for rw29. After inserting WW911 as the last wp before loww xp9 crashed.

I am using the latest airac circle.

Tom

xp9, win7, 64bit, nvidia gtx580

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Well I don't know if it will be for use for Philipp.. but could you please post the log.txt and crash-log.txt please. Only attached the files.. not copy and paste the txt.

Thanks!

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How did you change the runway? Did you select a new transition?

Hi Philipp,

Yes and it still gave me SNU as last WP on the transition to rw29 then I inserted WW911 then CTD.

BTW as we talk about how to make entries - is there a way to enter holding inbound legs and turn direction? For example what is the correct entry for a 175deg inbound leg and a left turn?

Regards Tom

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As far as I can see, SNU is the last waypoint of the ILS29 approach (regardless of the transition) because it is the holding where the missed approach terminates. When you entered the approach into the flightplan, the meaning of LOWW in the flightplan will actually be "threshold of the selected runway at LOWW".

I just tried changing an rw34 approach into an rw29 approach at LOWW:

ILS34.NER2N goes something like this: WW836-WW835-WW834-CI34-DME19-LOWW- missed approach begins here-(1000)-WGM-hold at WGM

pressing DEP ARR, selecting LOWW arrivals (RLSK2), deleting ILS34, selecting ILS29, then NER3M transition (this is important! always select the transition, even if you are already behind it!) gave me something like this:

WW829-WW858-WW910-CF29-FF29-LOWW- (missed approach begins here)-RW29/293/2.2(overfly)-SNU-hold at SNU

So, yes, the last waypoint is SNU because the missed approach procedure is to let you hold there until you get further instructions from ATC.

Regarding the entry: Simply press the HOLD button. If there is one holding in the flightplan, you will be taken to its page. If there are multiple holdings in the flightplan, you will be taken to a list where you can select the holding you want to edit.

So if you press HOLD in the situation above, you will see the published missed approach holding at SNU, which is 350/R, giving a parallel entry if coming from the missed approach situation. If you want to make it a 175° inbound left turn, enter 175/L in the scratchpad and press LLSK3 (inbd crs/dir) and you will see the entry switch to a direct entry in this example. Press EXEC to save the change.

Philipp

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thnx philipp,

regarding the wp crash - why does it crash if I enter that waypoint - regardless if it on the transition or not - the controller asked me to do that and I did it with the crash. I think it may not crash in no circumstances there can anytime be a situation where the controller sends you to an unusual wp. you do not think so?

with the holding I am happy to try that as soon as I am able to pull that plane out of the hangar.

Regards Tom

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