Simmo W Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Well done goran, this classic looks great, all u developers are going to tempt me too much! Can u tell me how the engineers panel will be handled, surely one simmer can't do the job of 2-3 people, or will we be able to share the workload online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 The Engineers panel will definitely be a 2D pop up panel. 1 person will easily be able to control engineer duties with a 2D pop up engineers panel once the person grows accustomed to the duties involved. Most engineer duties are performed on the ground during start up and after landing. The engineer also controls engine thrust on take off, climb and descent by placing his hand on the throttle (in the real aircraft) but I might be able to include an "autothrust" system which replaces the engineer. Other than that, the engineer mostly monitors the aircraft systems to make sure the aircraft flies smoothly and to address failures should they occur.There MIGHT be other 2D pop up panels as well, (INS, radio stack and Overhead) but that remains to be decided during testing.It is, undoubtedly, a complex aircraft, but once you learn how to fly it, it is a real fun aircraft to conquer. Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZatcboy Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Sounds delicious. Glad to see how fast it's coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Skieczius Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 ah so those things are overgrown static discharge wicks then.i c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxunru Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Not so sure if they're oversized static wicks. Just did a bit of research and the spear tubes on the wingtips are actually HF antennas.Model is looking great!Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Slowly getting there.Overhead panelAnd Engineers Panel. I deleted some sections because I wasn't happy with them. After 3-4am, I start to lose focus and I start rushing so I'm going to re do them after I have a Vienna Coffee. As always, opinions and feedback are very welcome.Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxunru Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 And I thought that building the T7 overhead was bad. Definitely something to be said for 30 years of streamlining.Fab job Just out of curiosity, what kind of poly counts are you getting in the 3d cockpit so far?I'm starting to notice a fps slowdown with my unfinished T7 cockpit. I'm sitting around 111000 polys in Blender...so close to double that for obj triangulation in the sim. Have lots of work yet to do so I may need to cut here and there.CheersAlex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewS Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 So nice! I can't wait to see these panels lit up at night.You planning on doing a old school Cathay livery? If so first flight for me will be Manila (RPLL) to HongKong (VHHH Kai-tak).http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cathay-Pacific-Airways/Boeing-747-267B/1168605/&sid=c25bc9ddd55b3550de1c87f236bd3374 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 And I thought that building the T7 overhead was bad. Definitely something to be said for 30 years of streamlining.Fab job Just out of curiosity, what kind of poly counts are you getting in the 3d cockpit so far?I'm starting to notice a fps slowdown with my unfinished T7 cockpit. I'm sitting around 111000 polys being rendered in the sim. Have lots of work yet to do so I may need to cut here and there.CheersAlexThanks for your comments, Alex. So far, Engineers Panel (1 more sub panel to make it complete) and Overhead panel have about 30 000 polys (15 000 each). I'm shooting for 15 000 polys for each panel of the cockpit (Engineer, Overhead, Captains and First Officers Panel combined, Center Console). I'm hoping to peak at around 300 0000-350 000 polys for the entire aircraft. So far, I'm at 240 000 polys for the whole plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 So nice! I can't wait to see these panels lit up at night.You planning on doing a old school Cathay livery? If so first flight for me will be Manila (RPLL) to HongKong (VHHH Kai-tak).http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cathay-Pacific-Airways/Boeing-747-267B/1168605/&sid=c25bc9ddd55b3550de1c87f236bd3374The liveries I have in mind are (in old colors):QantasCathayUnitedAtlasBritish AirwaysNorthWestand KLMThere may be more but these are on my "definite" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewS Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thanks for your comments, Alex. So far, Engineers Panel (1 more sub panel to make it complete) and Overhead panel have about 30 000 polys (15 000 each). I'm shooting for 15 000 polys for each panel of the cockpit (Engineer, Overhead, Captains and First Officers Panel combined, Center Console). I'm hoping to peak at around 300 0000-350 000 polys for the entire aircraft. So far, I'm at 240 000 polys for the whole plane.If you have to cull polygons can you please not do it from the Captains panel or glareshield? This is where the pilots view is most of the time and to be seeing "unsmooth" corners is really glaring!CLS did a great classic 747 for FSX but IMHO they wrecked the immersion somewhat by making the artifical horizon and glareshield corners not as smooth as they could have been.Please if you have to, borrow some polys from the engineers panel or fuse panel rather than pilots panel/glareshield. I'm begging you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxunru Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Yum on all counts.The liveries I have in mind are (in old colors):QantasCathayUnitedAtlasBritish AirwaysNorthWestand KLMThere may be more but these are on my "definite" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZatcboy Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Don't forget Air Canada!http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Canada/Boeing-747-238BM/1516558/L/&sid=9ac815a05a29298831a6fe1b7e3de8de Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquise Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Yea air canada is so important to the 747 Great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TheoGregory Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Or Air New Zealand... oh wait im painting them... ok guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choix Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 May be you can add this one to the list...http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Transaero_Boeing_747-200_Sharm_el_Sheikh.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBalsa Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I miss the Air Canada 747s. Was about 4 and a half when I flew trans-atlantic to London Heathrow from Toronto on one of the 747's.IMO, this plane wouldn't be the same without an Air Canada livery. Looking stunning too. I can't imagine the work load the rest of those panels will put on you. - Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 awwwww, I guess I can get Theo to throw in an Air Canada.Re: the work involved...I have had more than 1 person tell me I was in over my head with this aircraft. ME included. I have to say, it's not an easy one to make. But the workload is what I expected.It's one of those things where I just need to be patient and take 1 step at a time until I'm finished.1 thing is for certain. I will finish it earlier than I anticipated.Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxime Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Where are you able to buy your planes?Great job ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 All my work will be sold at:http://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/Expect to see the Saab up there very soon. Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxime Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 By soon do you mean by christmas?Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 By soon do you mean by christmas?Good luck http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php?topic=359.msg3276#msg3276 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I'm wearing out my scroll wheel on my mouse! I managed to trim a little of the poly count. Got rid of 30 000 polys, mostly from the landing gear and some from the fuselage.More renders...Engineers panelBeginnings of the Captains PanelI also got in touch with a retired Flight Engineer (he flew on the -100 and -200) and he'll be providing some very useful information for me should I need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiedels Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 This plane is really looking good, and I can't wait to fly it. ;D Are you going to include an INS navigation system, because that would be awesome!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 This will be an accurate representation of the 747-200, so yes, it will have a Delco Carousel IV INS system.http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php?topic=426.msg2888#msg2888Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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