GridiroN Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Posting this at the request of Pilsner So, I noticed in my test flight that it is possible to screw up/confuse the FO in regards to the current or desired checklist by skipping some stuff, or ignoring his callouts. For example, I just wanted to get into the air and test a few things out, so I ignored some stuff, and just went. When I went to start a new checklist, I realized the FO was now somehow stuck reading 2 checklists at once, but also that there seems to be no intuitive way for the user to change checklists on the fly other than going up to the challenger menu and going through them 1 by 1. I think it would be a useful QOL change to add back this system that was present in the TBM-900 product, as shown in the attached image. The CL650 has something similar to this, where you can scroll through checklist items and do the checklist yourself, however, I noticed you cannot move this up to the checklist menu and change the actual checklist like in the TBM; it just takes you back to the end of the checklist. Perhaps also, when changing checklists like this, the FO will abandon the previous one and start on whichever one the user picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 The TBM's checklist is the way it is because that's how the Garmin avionics do them. Likewise, the 650 is how the Pro Line avionics system presents them. While looking into any hiccups will definitely be done, wanting to change how they're presented to ultimately NOT be like the real thing won't be something we'd entertain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridiroN Posted January 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cameron said: The TBM's checklist is the way it is because that's how the Garmin avionics do them. Likewise, the 650 is how the Pro Line avionics system presents them. While looking into any hiccups will definitely be done, wanting to change how they're presented to ultimately NOT be like the real thing won't be something we'd entertain. You've already done this by allowing the user to go to the Challenger menu and skip ahead or go back a checklist. My suggestion is simply to allow the user to expedite this process so they don't inadvertently break the FO. If the FO can go ahead or behind a checklist either by the challenger menu, or by completing the checklist, it makes sense (and doesn't break immersion of reality) to simply have, perhaps an option in the challenger menu to allow the user to pick the checklist and have the FO navigate to that checklist versus having the user have to go back and forth one by one themselves to find the correct one. Edited January 9, 2022 by GridiroN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Menu items may be a possibility (up to @skiselkov). I just wanted to make clear we would not create "fake" UI on the displays that are not in the actual aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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