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Logical enough. Thanks @Pils

Hi All How do I setup this MFD display with the Takeoff reference -- or other references if there are some -- in the bottom half of the MFD? Thanks.

Hey Cameron, good catch. How did you see that from the log.txt? I had been trying Rosetta on and off for so long I thought it was on, but it was off. One point I had to negotiate was load the standard Laminar 172 in order to get the x-aviation activation dialog. If I went straight to the CL650 it crashed before it got there. Probably some remnant of the earlier CTD. Thanks for your help.

Hi All With a fresh install of the CL650 on XP12, and AFTER getting past all the third-party developer warnings and rebooting, the plane CTDs. I looked in the log file and it appears to be related to IPx6 access, which I assume has to do with the x-aviation activation stage (which never appears -- no request to enter a license key). Notice the socket failure (Bad mWinSocket!) in the log. Is there another way to activate the plane? Else, we gotta get this method working. IPv6 is set to normal (automatic) in the OS settings. Thanks Mac M1 Max Sonoma 14.1.2, latest XP12 12.0.8-rc-3 (non-beta) CL650 1.7 fresh download Log file attached. Log.txt

I second that. And use the SimBrief downloader application to export the plan in the right format to the right folder. The IXEG 737 is specifically supported. Both are free and fantastic, so if you like them, give the dev a donation, and fly on...

FWIW the Mike Ray book is about the real airplane, not this simulation. Use it to learn how one real pilots thinks as he flies the 737 classic. But don't expect it and the sim to behave identically.

Working for me. By studying the slight delays, it looks like the app updates XP first then waits for XP to send the new screen info back to the app. If you are getting no screen updates on the app, it may be that the app is not getting data from XP at all. Check you network traffic for two-way data between AirFMC and XP.

Here's a summary of what I have learned from this mini-survey so far: First, thanks to everyone who has contributed. Keep those ideas and observations coming! Conclusion 1: For X-Plane, cooling matters more than horsepower. If you were building a PC system, it would be more useful to put that last couple of hundred bucks into cooling than CPU or GPU speed -- because if things are overheating and then have to slow or shut down, or break, it doesn't matter how fast it says they are on the box. (However, some have very fast hardware and no special cooling, and all is well. Me? I'd definitely get liquid cooling.) Conclusion 2: Macs, both MBPs and iMacs, have more overheating problems than PCs. This is probably obvious given the compactness that Apple favors, but it is also a factor of dust getting into small nooks and crannies. Mac owners running X-Plane should definitely become cleaning fanatics. (I plan on doing just that, and have ordered some P5 screwdrivers and compressed air to handle that -- I will report on my success when they arrive.) Conclusion 3: The software Macs use to control the fans is too slow to respond to the sudden bursts of CPU, GPU, Power supply, and HDD demands that X-Plane puts on them. I bought a great piece of OSX software called TGPro -- Temperature Gauge Pro -- for $16 and set it to auto boost mode on the default settings. This means that whenever any of the dozens of heat sensors in a Mac rise above 80C, the fans jump up in a hurry. The result is a Mac noticeably cooler to the touch, and no frame rate drop. (Even my other Mac running my programming applications is benefitting from TGPro.) Of course, the fans will wear out sooner, but I figure that is better than something melting down. I have been using, programming, and making music and film on computers for 33 years. I have never seen anything close to the demands that X_Plane puts on a computer. It's not just that things spike -- they go to max and stay there for a long time. The wonderful IXEG 737 seems to be the most demanding plane of all for me -- maybe because it is scripted, not coded in a lower level language like C or C++. Getting it to perform on a machine that handles it gracefully is a challenge. Well worth it though.

@sizziano thanks. Did you mean a 4790K at 4.0? I can't find a 4.9GHz anywhere. Also, do you have any extra cooling features in your mid-tower?

I'd like to start a general survey about this wonderful plane causing computer overheating. In my case it's a MacBook Pro, which gets hot with most any good x-plane aircraft, but so hot with this one that frame rates drop into the single digits (as Jan noted) and only an extended pause gets things back up for a while. Needless to say this makes the plane impossible to use on VATSIM. This is such a good plane that I am considering buying a new computer, and would go back to a Windows box if overheating were less a problem than on, say, a new iMac. SO: Mac, Windows or Linux, what are your experiences with overheating, and what are your recommendations for dealing with the problem? Many thanks, Andrew Culver

Good find. Thanks.

Very instructive. Thank you.

Looks like Toper is Windows only. Does anyone know of a Mac application with similar features?

Thanks for sharing all, both the pics, the route, and the Wednesday night VATSIM heads-up. Definitely one to try.