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Hello, I'd like to join the question. I have both X-Plane 11 and X-Plane 12 installed. Unfortunately, I'm experiencing fluctuating performance in XP12. Toliss runs great, but Felis not so much. With the IXEG 737, I'm worried I might encounter similar issues in XP12. Does the purchased version work in XP11 or not at all? If so, I'll just stick to flying in the old sim and wait for XP12 to hopefully run better with future updates. Best regards, Timo

I want to get the IXEG 737 but I would like to be able to own both the X-Plane 11 & 12 versions if possible. I see the X-Plane 11 version is now removed from the store. Please, is there any way to get both versions of the aircraft? I would be willing to pay for both if I could get some kind of package discount for buying both versions of the aircraft. I still use X-Plane 11 a lot for many reasons and I want this plane in both sims.

Then I'll also add something - I'm so free I understand both sides. Although I started simming with FS5 and A320 on the Amiga, it wasn't until FS 2004 and FSX that I really got into it. As life goes, there are phases where you don't have time to spend leisure time at the computer. Then, years later, you regain some free time and come back to the hobby... in that time, I found FSX replaced by Prepar3d and MSFS 2020, and X-Plane 11 was already replaced by the release of XP12. Emotionally, though, I was still attached to all the FSX addons and had to realize with "consternation" that I couldn't catch up on all the addons I wanted to. PMDG? FSX products gone. At first, I thought the same thing: Why? Just keep selling it and don't worry about it. But would that be okay? Would I spend $90 on an addon and have problems installing it or entering the key... but expect no support? To make it short: Development has also allowed me to discover addons that I would never have experienced otherwise. I spent some time with MSFS, but now I'm full-time (meaning the full time of sparse leisure time) in X-Plane. I would like to be more in XP12, but XP11 is currently running better. Hoping for 12.1 and further updates... but without the "forced" perspective change away from FSX, I wouldn't have discovered all the addons that I get to experience today. Yes, I'm still somewhat behind and want to treat myself to the Challenger next month (also because it still runs in XP11), but I am now firmly convinced that I will also experience the IXEG in XP12. Unfortunately, not today or tomorrow, but maybe in a year. It's a hobby that should be fun for us, and developers have to figure out how to best manage economically... hey, no question. I still come and feel that we are not customers in the classical sense. On the "other side" sit enthusiasts who program something for our community (which I will never understand how it works) and we have the opportunity to live with these addons this hobby virtually and still all be in the midst of a community where we have direct contact with each other. From this perspective, I pay for the time, work, ideas, and sweat with my purchase price, but unlike when I buy a car or whatever, I don't expect to be treated like a king. Most developers of addons of the quality of IXEG have such high standards for themselves and their work that you don't need to step on their toes when there are problems. But as individuals, we must accept that our own interests and perspectives cannot be the sole measure. Even if it's personally disappointing, if it's better for the greater good, then so be it.

Think? I know. I deal with customers daily. It's my job. It's not a statement about one's intelligence. It's about the common occurrence of NOT reading. 50 products is more than a few. My data is a lot more relevant and true than anything you'll get your hands on. That's about all I can say to that. I'm sorry you're displeased, but I've been doing this (selling products) for 16 years. I don't care to be right, I'm just stating the facts as they are. I hope you find products that make you happy, and while I find your future purchasing decisions a bit odd, that's your choice and I respect it. Happy flying!

Lol good point. I believe you but I did a survey a couple months ago (from a popular flight sim website) asking me which simulators I use most and after I finished the survey it showed me the results which actually showed many more X-Plane users are using still using X-Plane 11 version 11.55 over X-Plane 12. Another strange result that surpised me is that some X-Plane users are still using an outdated version of X-Plane 11 (version 11.30 I believe but I could be wrong) for some reason. I am not asking for continued support and updates for XP11 add-ons. As I said before, I would be happy to buy the XP11 version of the IXEG 737 as is with no developer support or new updates. All I'm asking is that they make it available for sale, I don't think that's asking too much and it will in no way hurt development of current products.

See it this way, maybe? When you eventually upgrade to XP12...the IXEG will be there waiting for you (unless we moved to XP13 by that time )

I’m hoping for good news from the beta testers soon.

Thanks @Coop That solved the issue. Thanks again.

It appears that you are not signed into your X-Aviation account in Gizmo, so the G5s aren't activating. Sometimes the sign in window doesn't appear on X-Plane monitor when it is positioned at a negative display coordinate, as shown here. Temporarily open X-Plane in windowed mode instead of full screen and then the sign in dialog should show up.

Perfectly in your right! You're just in a severe minority.

What kind of complexities would make it so difficult to keep the XP11 version available for sale on the website? That doesn't make sense to me. I don't know a lot about hosting a site that sells downloadable products, but it can't be that difficult to leave it up on the store for people to buy and download. I mean, there's nothing else you really have to do (as far as I know) except keep it available in the store than just let it sit there for sale (with a "no longer supported" disclaimer) and keep the "master" copy of the aircraft on the site (or wherever you keep your downloads) available for people to download it. What else do you have to do that wasn't already done really? There's an FSX/P3D aircraft developer that was named Milviz (now called Blackbird Simulations), they made a lot of high quality payware. About a year ago, they decided to drop out of the FSX/P3D market and focus on MSFS and then they did something very awesome for the FSX/P3D community (yes, they still exist), they re-released all 25 of there FSX/P3D aircraft as freeware and made them all available for anyone to download on their own website which they host themselves: Blackbird Simulations - Freebies (blackbirdsims.com) If they can make 25 legacy aircraft available for download for free on their site, why can't you just keep one single legacy XP11 aircraft available (for sale)? Can it be that difficult to do? As for still wanting to use XP11, I am certainly not unwilling to deal with XP12 because I own it already, I just don't use it much rn. Though it is an improvement over XP11, It's not nearly as impressive as I had hoped it would be and not much better than my heavily modified version of XP11, most of the time I find myself firing up XP11 instead. Also XP12 is barely even out of beta now. For XP11 I have many aircraft that are not and likely will not be updated for XP12 that I still enjoy flying, I have my Orbx TE scenery (most of which is not yet XP12 compatible) and loads of other types of scenery as well as many other kinds of add-ons, in fact, I have XP11 looking nearly as good as XP12 does and in some ways even better looking. I'm not going to give up XP11 and the several hundred dollars' worth of add-ons I own that goes with it just to use XP12 which has very limited amount of content compared to XP11 rn and it will likely take a very long time for developers to do their thing and make old add-ons fully compatible (many converted XP11 to XP12 aircraft and other add-ons still have plenty of bugs & other issues to work out as well as the newly released content) as well as make more new add-ons. There's still a lot of upsides to still using XP11 for me. It is going to be a very, very long time before I switch to using XP12 on a regular basis, probably at least a few years or so, in fact I'm thinking about uninstalling it because I use it so little and it's taking up so much storage just sitting there. I'm not buying the IXEG 737 if I can only get it for XP12, it's not worth it to me. I'm also not going to buy the new LES DC3 for the same reasons.

View File ADAC (fictional) Enjoy ! Submitter Christophe Submitted 04/16/2024 Category Hot Start Challenger 650 Livery For https://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/product_info.php/take-command-hot-start-challenger-650-p-212  

I know that the CL600-series is generally operated at M0.80 at cruise, and I am personally totally fine with that. Still, out of interest: does any operator ever fly at max cruise? (Bombardier itself specifies a max cruise of M0.82, so I don't know where the MCRZ of M0.83 in the Hot Start FMS comes from). I have the impression that a good portion of operators go even lower, e. g. to M0.78 in cruise, even when not having to squeeze out max range. Is it just a fuel burn/cost issue, or does the Challenger display some unwanted qualities at speeds higher than M0.80?

In order to debug what is going on, we will need you to send us a copy of the X-Plane log.txt file. You can find a guide to get this file here: How to find the X-Plane log.txt file?

View File OE-INK Hot Start Challenger 650 This is a livery for the Hot Start Challenger 650, inspired by https://www.jetphotos.com/registration/OE-INK To install, extract the zip file into the "liveries" folder. You can supply your own registration, OE-INK is not printed on the cowlings. Submitter pilotdeviation Submitted 04/13/2024 Category Hot Start Challenger 650 Livery For https://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/product_info.php/take-command-hot-start-challenger-650-p-212  

Hoped there would be a secrete option But I read some things in this forum and I understand the cancelation of XP11 support. Only then the upgrade policy makes sense. So, perhaps we see us in the future.

A "no, X-Plane 11 is no longer supported and therefore you can't buy it" is ok for me. Though it would be sad but of course acceptable. I just ask for clarification.

View File NOAA "Orion" and "Gulf" (fictional) Enjoy! Submitter Christophe Submitted 04/11/2024 Category Hot Start Challenger 650 Livery For https://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/product_info.php/take-command-hot-start-challenger-650-p-212  

Could of posted that months ago. Thank you.

It's been a while...

I do, have refined it to the new version... still need some work and I couldn't make the cargo doors to work but you can always use the interface, sometimes the doors get stuck too. XP12_737-300.xml

XP11 repaint here For anyone who fancies a bit of nostalgia. I wanted my own personal 737 and thought I'd do a nod to the earlier days of simming, where I started, Fs98.. I got tricked into making one of my own with the "Make a repaint for X-plane in 20 minutes" videos.. Here it is 2 days and sleep deprivation later xD.. BlueSkyOne. Not perfect but I gave it my all. https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/88407-xp11-ixeg-blueskyone/

Unlike other aircraft types in the Collins auto flight system VNAV is a modifier on the standard vertical modes (VS, FLC, etc.). It basically instructs the system to respect altitude constraints in the flight plan, and if enabled, use speed targets from the FMS. When descending in VPATH on an arrival and initial approach, similar to an ILS, once the plane is flying towards the final approach point for the RNAV/RNP then one can push the APPR button and VGP will arm/capture. Once active the plane will descend on the final glide path below the preselected altitude. Hope that helps.

I can't help the dissapointed. There is a quite well known phrase, "Disappointment is the difference between expectations and reality". We have tried to be as forthcoming as possible with setting expectations by telling folks it will take the majority of this year getting converted to FMOD and improving the FMS....but beyond that, there are also very big changes necessary 'under the hood'....big and time-consuming. Folks think that its always 'evolution'....just incremental work, but with tech, eventually the patches get too heavy. There is a very major overhaul of the "black box" bits to ensure future compatibility and the IXEG's continued existence....a rewriting of nearly 70,000 lines of code in a new language (that took 3 years to write originally) , stuff you won't see but I have to do to keep the IXEG compatible for the future. Guess what...its going to be silent for even longer while I work on the FMOD and code refactoring / FMS. Settle in...enjoy some other wonderful products for X-Plane, but know that it is not abandonware....and we won't be charging for updates for years to come probably. -tk

You're taking away an element of the aircraft that enables all the systems to run. Just because you remove it and it loads does not mean you've solved the issue at all. Of course a Mac plugin is not going to run on Windows! I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "outdated". They are not. Unfortunately, it's quite clear you're throwing darts anywhere you can without a target even being present. Lots of talk that you don't have knowledge about, hence these strange accusations you've made throughout this thread about old items, and plugins not being 64 bit. The facts remain. There's three of you encountering this. That's a pool size so small I cannot help you and you're better off seeking a common denominator amongst one another. It's the last time I'll say such, and I'm going to close this thread. Please discuss amongst yourselves in private messages. Should things change or we have an "aha!" moment, I will unlock and update this thread.