FlightSimElectronics Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I am trying to find a Bell Huey like those used in Vietnam. Does anyone know if there is a payware version available? The only one I could find was a freeware version on "that other site". If not, I'd like to find a heli of some sort that is an accurate flyer and extremely detailed, preferably with a 3D cockpit. Thanks everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampster Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Well, I am a huge fan of brett sumpters work, he made the Huges 500D, the R44, and the chinook... The sikorsky is my favorite, The kamov ka-26. And also there is the EC-135, and the cobra.Click on the links above! These are all the Helis I know of, with a 3D cockpit that is. I think Air.C74.net has some payware helis aswell. click me!Hope this helps, you probably already have half already.-Hampster Edited August 31, 2011 by Hampster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo W Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 The BK117 by Nils is my favorite, for it's great 3D gauges, systems and flight model. U can't go wrong with it. I hear there are a couple of reasonable liveries available :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 There is a 412 in development that will be very high quality.http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=52688&pid=595597&st=60entry595597 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 lol @ "couple" of liveries Your 2 most accurate, detailed helis (with believable/realistic 3D cockpits) are the BK117 (payware) and the H500 (freeware).Next choices are the Dreamfoil Bell 206 (hard) or soon-to-be Robinson R44.In the works a decent MD902, but there's no realistic Huey as yet unless you're okay with a 2D panel or cartoony 3D from v8.64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightSimElectronics Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) I love the Chinook! I find it a very easy flier and have been using it mostly to learn on. I can't wait to turn off the "roll-stabilty augmentation" in joystick settings once I get more experience with these whirling top bladed contraptions. Thanks for all the other links. Could someone post a link for the BK117? My googlerthingy seems brokened! EDIT: Found it Edited September 1, 2011 by FlightSimElectronics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 http://store01.prostores.com/servlet/x-planestore/Detail?no=185 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightSimElectronics Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Thanks! I am currently downloading the EC-135 and something that caught my eye was a little plugin for it that said "The plugin fixes the overdone plunge down by loss of translational lift in X-Plane." I read about this effect but sometimes I am ready to pull my hair out because I can't seem to get landing these whirlybirds under my belt. So, is X-plane at fault here? Is there something I can/should do to other models (like the Chinook) to fix this?Also getting the Sikorsky and will most likely purchase the BK117, although I can't believe the EC-135 is freeware, so we'll see.As per my original post concerning a Vietnam era Huey, the freeware one is the only one I can find. It is pretty awesome for freeware but man it is tough to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Landing these things takes lots and lots of practice. Getting it down from forward flight to a descent into a flare and then into a hover is like learning to ride a bike. One day it'll "happen."X-plane IS at fault, it's really exaggerated the ETL (exit-translation-lift) which is why we need these plugins to sort it. Without the plugin, you'd find coming to a halt from forward flight results in a sudden need to give a huge amount of collective/throttle to stay in the air.And half the time you'll still lose. We've all been there.....The EC135 cockpit is "okay." You'd never mistake it for being sat in the real thing. Now the BK117...... about as realistic as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 If you need a comparison, here's the BK117 cockpit (just about all those switches actually work) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 ... and the 500D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 and now the EC-135. Compare it to the BK and the 500D. Not quite in the same league. You know you're in a pc sim.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightSimElectronics Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 WOW. BK117 it is OK Nicola admit it, you've sold ice to an eskimo before? lol Thanks for taking the time to post the screenies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I won't bother putting the chinook up, it'd just convince you more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) You may want to watch the vid on starting the BK. (a bit dark n fuzzy, but shows what it's about). The heli itself is pin-sharp.http://forums.x-plan...showtopic=41869 Edited September 1, 2011 by Nicola_M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo W Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Ha, it really is a no-brainer.I'm working on a comparison article for xplane versus fsx helicopters, and I have to admit that Nil's interior wipes any of the FSX stuff away! and check out the seats ot the Dodosim, that's freeware quality. I don't notice those issues once operating though, as the flight model and sound is so cool, too busy trying to stay alive to marvel at polygons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 The H500 was released back in about 2006... not bad for an old slapper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hueyman Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 I can't understand why everyone ommit about the Dreamfoil's 206, one of the best chopper aviable ..About the UH-1 Huey, I'm one of those who want it, at any cost ( Vietnam War Era )I've started a topic there, my user name is " caliber5verm " ( http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=48423 )I never understand why every dev choose last generation helicopter, with glass cockpit etc .. the Huey is the most iconic helicopter in the world, every heli pilot should have at least heard about it ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Dreamfoil's 206 is not an easy chopper to fly, which is why I haven't listed it as one of the best.Yes, it's 3D cockpit is better than the stock 206, and yes the rotor startup is realistic.But it's still a nightmare to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 That's why I like DF's 206! Great practice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 (edited) It's like wrestling with a snake, which bites every chance it gets cos you're still looking to see what it did 3 seconds ago.Yeah, great practice..... If I ever find myself in a Bell Textron showroom with a wad of money, someone kick my butt outta there before I buy something stoopid.... Edited September 5, 2011 by Nicola_M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo W Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Ha, all this talk of how hard the Dreamfoil 206 is means I definitely gotta get it! The helicontrol guys claim it is the most dynamically accurate of any pc sim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Better buy yourself a stress ball to go with it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Beware Simon!Yes Nic, you're right. Response time is so slow. You've already made another adjustment when the first one actually happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo W Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Ha, ok I'll stick with mastering my Dodo for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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