Morten Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Hi guy's, We know that many of you are experiencing different autopilot issues. At this time it appears to be a conflict with a plugin called FSUIPC that many of you use. The temporary quick fix is to open the sim and aircraft; - Disable the FSUIPC (or XPUIPC) in the PLUGIN menu - REBOOT Gizmo (either in the plugin menu or with the little lightning button in the popupbar on the right screen edge) So no need to unistall anything if you don't want to We are in contact with FSUIPC and hope to get this fixed either by us or them as soon as possible! M Edited April 24, 2016 by Morten 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defiance_co Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Nice to know Morten Thanks Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah349 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 BTW, this temp fix does fix the VNAV and ALT HLD issues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buettnth Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 And my VR Insight MCP COMBO II has to kick? Never ever. Plane in Hangar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_c Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Disabling and will see how we go! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Ahh fine, experienced the ALT issue yesterday during a test flight. Going to try it out, as soon as Im home... thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litjan Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 And I already have an updated XPUIPC file for you from Torsten, the creator of XPUIPC. It will add compatibility - but please make sure that you install at your own risk and neither IXEG nor X-Pilot or X-Aviation can be held responsible for any possible adverse effects of damages you might suffer herefrom. You can also wait for the next hotfix which SHOULD be live within a few hours - it will also fix the AP problems. Jan XPUIPC 2.0.4.7.zip 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finches Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Quick question, how does one apply these hot fixes? Do we re download or is there an inbuilt mechanism? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnRei78 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Hi I am just doing a testflight with XPUIPC version 2.0.4.7. I can report that the AP is now holding the cruise level, with no ocsillation so far. Great job guys. Thank you. Enrico 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buettnth Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Have a testflight and it works perfectly Very thankful this is really the best Addon for X-Plane i ever buyed. Torsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul500NE Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Thanks Morten and Jan. BTW, you guys had facing problems with RNAV procedures with some strange flyovers? Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Thanks for you fast help, working fine for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prokopiu Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 you guys rock! Of all the little issues and problems we have with the Bobby having to disable XPUIPC (the most important plugin for me) to finally have proper vertical modes and being able to run an ILS approach or Autoland was the worst. Now my sim cockpit is back to normal even with the 737 And yes, I had problems with RNAV approaches. For me the bird suddenly turned right even before the last waypoint on the RNAV profile. I had to take over and force it back on to the runway center line. That was before I found out about XPUIPC. I will give it another shot with the updated plugin. Kosta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WR269 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 The system now works smoothly with the new XPUIPC....however, I now see that TOC and TOD don't line up....I reached planned altitude about 30nm before the indicated TOC on the ND. For arrival into EGCC, it started descent to first restriction of F190 and stopped at F190 some 50nm before we reached the waypoint...it descended way too steep. Didn't have such issues before Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmbaviator Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, WR269 said: The system now works smoothly with the new XPUIPC....however, I now see that TOC and TOD don't line up....I reached planned altitude about 30nm before the indicated TOC on the ND. For arrival into EGCC, it started descent to first restriction of F190 and stopped at F190 some 50nm before we reached the waypoint...it descended way too steep. Didn't have such issues before Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hi mate, its normal, do you know why ?? I deosn't take into account so far the wind. Normally, in real life pilot set wind prediction of each waypoints in the rte data page and the wind prediction in the descent forecast page. this information are crucial for accurate VNAV calculation and prediction. Even the FCOM advise the pilots to put wind prediction for accuracy matter. So the more headwind/tailwind you have the less chance the plane will reach the calculated TC pseudo point ( airbus term) and the TD pseudo point might be a bit innacurate, you may need to descent earlier (des now is not working now so VNAV descent is impossible if you want to descent earlier than planned, so you'll need to use the V/S) or later depedning if you have a TL or HD. But wind prediction entries is planned post v1.0 Edited April 25, 2016 by cmbaviator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, WR269 said: The system now works smoothly with the new XPUIPC....however, I now see that TOC and TOD don't line up....I reached planned altitude about 30nm before the indicated TOC on the ND. For arrival into EGCC, it started descent to first restriction of F190 and stopped at F190 some 50nm before we reached the waypoint...it descended way too steep. Didn't have such issues before Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Can you try to disable XPUIPC (2.0.4.7) and see if things then go back to normal? (and please start a new topic in the bug report section) Edited April 25, 2016 by Morten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WR269 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hi mate, its normal, do you know why ?? I deosn't take into account so far the wind. Normally, in real life pilot set wind prediction of each waypoints in the rte data page and the wind prediction in the descent forecast page. this information are crucial for accurate VNAV calculation and prediction. Even the FCOM advise the pilots to put wind prediction for accuracy matter. So the more headwind/tailwind you have the less chance the plane will reach the calculated TC pseudo point ( airbus term) and the TD pseudo point might be a bit innacurate, you may need to descent earlier (des now is not working now so VNAV descent is impossible if you want to descent earlier than planned, so you'll need to use the V/S) or later depedning is you have a TL or HD. But wind prediction entries is planned post v1.0 Ok interesting, there was strong headwind on climb. However for descent I filled out the wind prediction pages directly from FSGRW and the winds were spot on....doesn't stop me enjoy the aircraft, I just thought it curious since it had not happened before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WR269 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Can you try to disable XPUIPC (2.0.4.7) and see if things then go back to normal? Will do Morten, I saved the weather file so will replicate tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmbaviator Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just now, WR269 said: Ok interesting, there was strong headwind on climb. However for descent I filled out the wind prediction pages directly from FSGRW and the winds were spot on....doesn't stop me enjoy the aircraft, I just thought it curious since it had not happened before. i noticed too that you can enter wind in the des forecast page but it doesn't seem thatit is taken into account, if i recall correctly the dev said that wind entries is not taken into account, could be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boeing747 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Nice 737, but I tried the recommended fixes and I having a lot of trouble with the auto pilot, when adding a waypoint to my flight plan inflight and with LNAV and VNAV a screen pops up with a red line and other information which I don't under stand but I x the screen to continue with x-plane and it seems the auto pilot is disengaged even though the autopilot light is on, I press the autopilot button and the light with not goes off it stays on, then I try to engage the B autopilot and I get a CWS on my display, the only time the autopilot works is if I don't try to modify my flight plan, back in the hanger she goes GizmoLog.txt XPUIPC.txt Edited April 25, 2016 by boeing747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmbaviator Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 @WR269 was it an above/ below or at constraint ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63 Degrees Right Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hi, Any news on the HOTFIX for the autopilot that Jan mentioned yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay68 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 36 minutes ago, boeing747 said: Nice 737, but I tried the recommended fixes and I having a lot of trouble with the auto pilot, when adding a waypoint to my flight plan inflight and with LNAV and VNAV a screen pops up with a red line and other information which I don't under stand but I x the screen to continue with x-plane and it seems the auto pilot is disengaged even though the autopilot light is on, I press the autopilot button and the light with not goes off it stays on, then I try to engage the B autopilot and I get a CWS on my display, the only time the autopilot works is if I don't try to modify my flight plan, back in the hanger she goes GizmoLog.txt XPUIPC.txt Same here! Also happening without XUIPC! There is no way to edit your route (Add new Fixes/Delete others) during cruise...That allways causes the errors from above! Makes it a bit difficult to fly especially online when you are instructed by the ATC Looking forward to the first update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuti Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Finlay68 said: Same here! Also happening without XUIPC! There is no way to edit your route (Add new Fixes/Delete others) during cruise...That allways causes the errors from above! Makes it a bit difficult to fly especially online when you are instructed by the ATC Looking forward to the first update . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanmancz Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Hello, the XPUIPC fix does not solve the problem completely. It seems a bit better but the climb and alt hold is still quite wobbly as the autopilot is unable to maintain steady speed and climb rate. It still tends to climb much too steep, lose too much speed, go into level or even descent, pickup way too much speed and go into another steep climb wobble. Alt hold is a similar story, constantly wobbling up and down around the selected flight level. If I remove the XPUIPC from plugins and start without it it's fine. edit: Also I noticed that the FMC can sometimes create quite weird routes. For example the LSZH BLM2Z arrival to ILS28 with GIPOL28 transition generates a route with 2 very sharp points that "reverse" backwards instead of turning smoothly into the transition from GIPOL. I always have to skip the ZH203 waypoint and go direct to ZH204 from GIPOL as the FMC is unable to make a smooth transition there. I use the default AIRAC as Navigraph causes the Gizmo errors. This problem I mentioned is with default AIRAC (1509). edit2: And also this happened when I just now tried to select different arrival procedure: Gah! And the error completely messed up LNAV and autopilot both of which now refuse to engage. Edited April 25, 2016 by lanmancz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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