cptcaptain Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 One of the best sites to search for scenery WAS http://www.xpscenery.net/. But now they want to me to pay, to see the links to freeware scenery? Any alternatives? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayarov Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zKdUoyDRH6j0.k7Q3rMFgZpe4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Oh my god. How dare they charge for something of value... You think scenery curates and self organises while you're sleeping? If something provides you value. Support it. You'll spend more on toilet paper this week than that site is asking for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcaptain Posted June 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Which value? A google map with user submitted airports? Some of the links are not even up to date, so why pay for? I just think its not ok to take money for something, what someone else provides as freeware. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfisher Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 We all like free, don't we Ben? Even you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetsoh Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) If something provides you value. Support it. Which value? A google map with user submitted airports? Some of the links are not even up to date, so why pay for? I just think its not ok to take money for something, what someone else provides as freeware. I rarely join a conversation on the forums, but I have to agree with Ben on this. Someone is putting in a significant effort to provide a service to the community. I use that service frequently when flying in regions of the world that are not my usual areas. They do the research for me. @cptcaptain - You seem to contradict yourself. You first say that this is "One of the best sites to search for scenery..." and then you later say "Which value?" It seems to me that you have proven that you have value for their service by the mere fact that you complain that it is no longer free. In my case the choices seem clear - use it, or do not use it. Edited June 13, 2014 by Tsetsoh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcaptain Posted June 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 It WAS one of the best sites. It was a good website till the point they want money for links to freeware. I simply think thats not ok. And they just link to the scenery. They not even host it. So the server costs can not be very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Donick Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zKdUoyDRH6j0.k7Q3rMFgZpe4 Thanks for mentioning my map. However, I agree that it's up to the person who offers a service to decide if it's free or not. I can tell you that even keeping a map up to date takes quite a lot of time. Because you not only have to add links, but also find, download, test and rate sceneries (at least that's what I do). So, if xpscenery.net ask for a small fee, it's totally okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetsoh Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 It WAS one of the best sites. It was a good website till the point they want money for links to freeware. I simply think thats not ok. And they just link to the scenery. They not even host it. So the server costs can not be very high. They are not attempting to collect money for the scenery that you see listed, nor do they claim to. They do the research (a service) then provide the results of that research to you in the form of an easy-to-use website. You seem to discount that effort that they make, and would rather feel entitled to their resulting products. The market dynamics are simple. If you like what they offer, and you feel that it is worth the remuneration that they request, then you pay for the service. If you do not feel that you get that much value in exchange you should decline to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqrt(-1) Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 So the server costs can not be very high. So he should just eat the cost for your benefit? As Tsetsoh said, use it, or not. No one is holding a gun to your head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcaptain Posted June 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 No one is holding a gun to your head..I know that. And i know that i dont have to use it.It was not my intention to discuss if this is ok or not. I have only asked for alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqrt(-1) Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 1. It was not my intention to discuss if this is ok or not. 2. I have only asked for alternatives. 1. But you did. 2. But you didn't. See posts #4 and #7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcaptain Posted June 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) 1. But you did. Sure i did. But i did not start the discussion. 2. But you didn't. See posts #4 and #7. Please read post #1 Edited June 13, 2014 by cptcaptain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqrt(-1) Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Please read post #1 I did. Then I read the others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Okay, guys. This topic is going nowhere by this point and I think all that needs to be said has been said. I don't feel we'll get anywhere productive further than what has been offered by keeping this open, so this topic is now closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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