blacky75 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I love 'em, so I thought, lets do some shots :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWolf7 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Nice video! What scenery is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Chang Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I could never figure out how to fly helicopters, and when i tried, bad things always happened 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTango Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I could never figure out how to fly helicopters, and when i tried, bad things always happened Same here, I can't make ANY helicopter to lift off the ground. The only "choper" I can somewhat fly is the Osprey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyrooc Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 The TrackIR makes a big difference, especially 10m (30ft) off the ground, otherwise you're going to have to set your view to something like 85 degrees. Good fun though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamH Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Same here, I can't make ANY helicopter to lift off the ground. The only "choper" I can somewhat fly is the Osprey... Use F3 and F4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTango Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Use F3 and F4. F3 and F4? OK thanks, I will try it later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Same here, I can't make ANY helicopter to lift off the ground. The only "choper" I can somewhat fly is the Osprey... Your controller can make all the difference too. When I first had twist-grip joystick I found it a nightmare trying to control yaw on a heli. You end up with your hand/wrist at very unnatural angles and it hurts. God knows what it's like for non twist-grip joysticks. Ergo, for the first 6 years (out of my 10 on xplane) I only flew planes and couldn't fly helis at all.As a basic minimum you really need something dedicated to the task, like a Warthog, or you can use something like a cheap $25 rc-controller which you will be familiar with if you fly rc planes or rc helicopters.Those two options make flying helis much much more of a pleasure and less of an ordeal. And forget trying to fly a heli just with a mouse...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTango Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Your controller can make all the difference too. When I first had twist-grip joystick I found it a nightmare trying to control yaw on a heli. You end up with your hand/wrist at very unnatural angles and it hurts. God knows what it's like for non twist-grip joysticks. Ergo, for the first 6 years (out of my 10 on xplane) I only flew planes and couldn't fly helis at all.As a basic minimum you really need something dedicated to the task, like a Warthog, or you can use something like a cheap $25 rc-controller which you will be familiar with if you fly rc planes or rc helicopters.Those two options make flying helis much much more of a pleasure and less of an ordeal. And forget trying to fly a heli just with a mouse...... I only have a mouse so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I only have a mouse so... That would probably account for 99.999% of the reason your heli flying isn't going as well as you'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacky75 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) hi all... flying a heli is just a thing of patience... Don't forget that with a joystick, and I struggled alot too at my beginnings here, it gives far more input as needed because of its shortness.... a heli stick is much longer, so very small input on those are already enough... on the short computer stick it becomes very hard to get those very little, MUCH more little input (and I guess yes, a high qual joy makes it easier as they are much more precise and won't crackle around) So don't give it up... I'd recomment, for the first heli, to get the Mi2, or the MD902. They are quite stable (compared to the R22, Bell or AS350...!!!), which doesn't mean you won't need an everytime joy-input to get it stable... on the joystick options under x-plane, put all 6 bars (3 left, 3 right), at their maximum right side, and it will smoothen your first normal brutal inputs. Forget about planes, it's all about feeling. Of course the Track-IR makes it 'easier' to get what's going on, but it's doable without. So, remember, bigger helicopters will be easier due to their inertia to start with and less frustrting (didn't said you won't crash it a few times ;-) ). Now if you insist on the R22 as a starter, once mastered, the others will alllll be easy... but, its learning curve will be much, much steaper... In the heli, you change only ONE parameter (stick, rudder, throttle, collective,...) , only one, and all others need to be changed too to counter the first input... just a thing of habbit. I read somewhere that in real live, a clean hovering in an R22 is achieved after generally at least 16 hours of training... why should you get it done in 5 minutes?! good luck and most important: Have Fun ;-) with mouse and keyboard....? forget that... (my opinion) EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention: it MIGHT look clean on the video, but I assure you that I'm still unable, in one attempt, to come down from altitude on a very specific given spot... I miss it always and have to turn around. Autoration? Depends on which heli, and not 100% garanty I make it in one piece :-) Edited May 27, 2013 by blacky75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola_M Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) This is what I use, might be worth looking into if you want to utilise helis - $20. http://www.toysonics.com/esky-usb-2.0-4ch-flight-simulator-rc-helicopter-airplane-ek2-0905a.html Left stick up/down = throttle/collectiveLeft stick left/right= yaw left/yaw rightRight stick = cyclics rotor disk Comes with subtrims - great for helis not equipped. Edited May 27, 2013 by Nicola_M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTango Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 I can't get it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_pig Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I somehow manage to fly helis with a flight yoke and do farely well then again i don't find mouse aim much of a challenge either and as far as track ir goes i've gotten so used to moving my view with the hat switch on my yoke that when i do surround visuals with all of my pc's i still find myself using the hat switch to look around so i actually still have a very good idea of what's going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacky75 Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I somehow manage to fly helis with a flight yoke and do farely well then again i don't find mouse aim much of a challenge either and as far as track ir goes i've gotten so used to moving my view with the hat switch on my yoke that when i do surround visuals with all of my pc's i still find myself using the hat switch to look around so i actually still have a very good idea of what's going on it's not a must have, the track IR to fly... but only once you got it, you can't live without it anymore... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 great video!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWolf7 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I'd recomment, for the first heli, to get the Mi2, or the MD902. The S-92 is probably the easiest heli I have in my hanger. Quite stable and a nice heli to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacky75 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 great video!! thnks for feedback :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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