Goran_M Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 It sounds pretty close!!!! ;D ;D ;D Thanks for re-doing the manuals to make them better. This will probably be the first plane in X-Plane that I learn completely from start-up, to take off, to cruise, and to approach and shutdown. Good luck on the manuals and good luck, Theo, on the coding.... Cameron is doing the coding. And he's doing an amazing job actually.Theo was put back on textures and refining parts of the panel regions and night lighting.sounds good! will your checklist be typed into the checklister plugin?We're not sure at this point. I've been banned from x-plane.org and consequently, am unable to download anything from there or even contact anyone. Word from Cameron is "we'll see". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglewing7 Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 As long as there well organized, possibly in a similar manner to XPFR's B-17 quick start check list, or even a full length check list a .pdf version would work just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Oops, sorry Cameron. I didn't know you were this involved with the Saab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 As long as there well organized, possibly in a similar manner to XPFR's B-17 quick start check list, or even a full length check list a .pdf version would work just fine.The first manual I did, everything was all in the one manual with checklists being separate.The way I'm doing it now is much more organized.Feedback so far has been very favorable.And yes, all the documentation will be in pdf format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinhawaiian Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Soooo... April 5 Preview of the day? ;DAnd here's a little present for you all as incentive... Took this back in college: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 That's a nice picture. I wish they were still in service. :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinhawaiian Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 That's a nice picture. I wish they were still in service. :'(Yeah... the NW livery will always be one of my favorites on that bird. A close second is the pre-Continental UA scheme, though. Love the blues for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 That's a nice picture. I wish they were still in service. :'(Yeah... the NW livery will always be one of my favorites on that bird. A close second is the pre-Continental UA scheme, though. Love the blues for some reasonI like the NW one also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxime Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 is this bird frame rate friendly?Thanks,Maxime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 is this bird frame rate friendly?Thanks,MaximeI spent 3 days last week doing some serious mesh optimization. On my machine, without Gizmo debugging code built in, I was getting 23-26 fps. After optimization, I am getting an average of 38fps on the ground and 42 fps in the air with all settings maxed out except AA and AF. Those are set at 2x.The system I am doing these tests on isWindows 32bitDual core E6750 CPU4GB of RAM1GB 9800GT Graphics card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 The "Gizmo debug code" Goran refers to is a function that forces X-Plane to yield control of the CPU and go to sleep for N milliseconds.This keeps the CPU cooler, the fans quieter, and the rest of the OS and applications FAR more responsive, this allows better multi tasking and faster revision cycles as the artists can continue to use Photoshop/Blender/etc at full speed and crisp response latency.The code is exactly one line, and without removing it Goran cant give you a true FPS reading.As an example, I'm currently using this same function (gizmo.sleep(N)) with the Cirrus Jet to force my X-Plane FPS down to 22-25.If I take it out, my FPS triples to 75-80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gjalp Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hi Ben,can you explain why you would drop the frame rate intentionally? I thought everyone was trying to get as much FPS as possible?If the system runs better and more flawlessly at lower frame rates then I can understand as it might take some pressure of the video card?Slainte,AndyNZCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WombatBoy Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 He's lowering it intentionally so the developers don't have to close X-Plane to use other applications and can therefore make changes in blender, Photoshop, or Planeaker and then test them immediately in the sim. I don't know about Goran, Theo and the rest of the team but for me if I try to open Planemaker and X-Plane at the same time my computer looks at me, laughs sarcastically, and freezes epically so I have to shut it down It won't be shipped with the project, it's purely for the developers to test things quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gjalp Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hi WombatBoy,ahhh, that makes sence now.....I dont need the plugin, I have enough trouble getting decent frame rates as it is now let alone actually wanting to lower them! I am just happy to know that they are doing thier best to give us (for a small charge anyway...), a "flagship" aircraft that will be seen and commented on by all flight simmers, not just those who fly X-Plane. They have raised and set the bar for payware developers.....hard part is keeping it there!Cheers for the quick reply.Slainte,AndyNZCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I am just happy to know that they are doing thier best to give us (for a small charge anyway...), a "flagship" aircraft that will be seen and commented on by all flight simmers, not just those who fly X-Plane. They have raised and set the bar for payware developers.....hard part is keeping it there!Cheers for the quick reply.Slainte,AndyNZCHThis is the exact reason why we have kept delaying it after saying "it'll be ready by the end of the month". We honestly don't want to delay it, but whenever we see something new, we ask whether we can code it. If we can, then we do it. Even the little details that are almost insignificant but add that touch of realism that is noticeable. Case in point, Duchess Transponder light. Believe me when I tell you, we hate delaying this aircraft. But we want to do it right. From the flight model, 3D modelling, texturing, programming and even the documentation (247 pages and counting). I won't list what has been coded yet (believe me, it's a lot) but I will when we finish it.Have we raised the bar? I can safely say, yes. All I'll say is it's not long to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I am just happy to know that they are doing thier best to give us (for a small charge anyway...), a "flagship" aircraft that will be seen and commented on by all flight simmers, not just those who fly X-Plane. They have raised and set the bar for payware developers.....hard part is keeping it there!Cheers for the quick reply.Slainte,AndyNZCHThis is the exact reason why we have kept delaying it after saying "it'll be ready by the end of the month". We honestly don't want to delay it, but whenever we see something new, we ask whether we can code it. If we can, then we do it. Even the little details that are almost insignificant but add that touch of realism that is noticeable. Case in point, Duchess Transponder light. Believe me when I tell you, we hate delaying this aircraft. But we want to do it right. From the flight model, 3D modelling, texturing, programming and even the documentation (247 pages and counting). I won't list what has been coded yet (believe me, it's a lot) but I will when we finish it.Have we raised the bar? I can safely say, yes. All I'll say is it's not long to go.With a rather simple aircraft like the Saab taking this long to catch every detail, I can't imagine what the 747 will be like for you guys. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I am just happy to know that they are doing thier best to give us (for a small charge anyway...), a "flagship" aircraft that will be seen and commented on by all flight simmers, not just those who fly X-Plane. They have raised and set the bar for payware developers.....hard part is keeping it there!Cheers for the quick reply.Slainte,AndyNZCHThis is the exact reason why we have kept delaying it after saying "it'll be ready by the end of the month". We honestly don't want to delay it, but whenever we see something new, we ask whether we can code it. If we can, then we do it. Even the little details that are almost insignificant but add that touch of realism that is noticeable. Case in point, Duchess Transponder light. Believe me when I tell you, we hate delaying this aircraft. But we want to do it right. From the flight model, 3D modelling, texturing, programming and even the documentation (247 pages and counting). I won't list what has been coded yet (believe me, it's a lot) but I will when we finish it.Have we raised the bar? I can safely say, yes. All I'll say is it's not long to go.With a rather simple aircraft like the Saab taking this long to catch every detail, I can't imagine what the 747 will be like for you guys. ;D Good luck!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 @WombatBoy; thanks for clearing that up.. That's what I wanted to say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 With a rather simple aircraft like the Saab taking this long to catch every detail, I can't imagine what the 747 will be like for you guys. ;D This project has been pushing us all to expand.Mesh, Textures, Systems Scripting and Gizmo have all been expanding and evolving in parallel.It's all coming together now as a very tidy package, it's pushed us all to work and think harder, we've covered a lot of ground and learnt lessons that apply directly to future projects especially regarding Systems Scripting.I find myself having finally matured Gizmo to the point where it's compelling to use, I don't get to use it much! A lot of the AOM-compliance stuff that Cameron has brought to fruition hasn't been done to this level in Gizmo alone by anyone else yet as far as I know.I still look at a 747 project with respect, but every day breaks it down into smaller more manageable pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karingka Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Looks really really really good! Nice job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxime Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 What would be the frame rates for this bird?I am running on an imac with a 3.06ghz dual core, with 8gb ram, and a 256mb video card.Best,Maxime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 What would be the frame rates for this bird?I am running on an imac with a 3.06ghz dual core, with 8gb ram, and a 256mb video card.Best,MaximeYou shouldn't have any problems. You're processor is faster than mine and you have more RAM and I'm currently getting 35 to 40 fps everything maxed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidenFan Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 What would be the frame rates for this bird?I am running on an imac with a 3.06ghz dual core, with 8gb ram, and a 256mb video card.Best,MaximeYou shouldn't have any problems. You're processor is faster than mine and you have more RAM and I'm currently getting 35 to 40 fps everything maxed out.Awesome. I cant' wait!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinhawaiian Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 What are the chances of the manuals and procedures guides released early for those of us who want to study up? Resources on the interwebs are fairly scarce... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianR Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 i think he's still working on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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