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Has anything changed in your X-Plane installation since the previous version?  Any extra plug ins?  I'm currently watching DJSean on twitch flying the latest update in 11.3, and he's experiencing no issues...even with VR.

Have you tried taking out all plugins, except Gizmo, out of your plugins folder and then trying again?

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3 hours ago, Goran_M said:

Has anything changed in your X-Plane installation since the previous version?  Any extra plug ins?  I'm currently watching DJSean on twitch flying the latest update in 11.3, and he's experiencing no issues...even with VR.

Have you tried taking out all plugins, except Gizmo, out of your plugins folder and then trying again?

No changes no, I haven't tried removing plugins yet as its working fine with other ac. Ill try another flight soon and see if i have the same issues again. I think it is linked to disabling the heat blur when the ac is loaded possibly ??

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1.1.4b CTD

 

2019-01-13 15:24:22 TBM900[except.c:171]: Caught EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Backtrace is:
0 00007FFB45D2BCF0 C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll+ebcf0 ()
1 00007FFB49003167 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+a3167 ()
2 00007FFB48FEB5E6 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+8b5e6 ()
3 00007FFB48FFF7DD C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+9f7dd ()
4 00007FFB48F6D856 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+d856 ()
5 00007FFB48FFE70E C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+9e70e ()
6 00007FF63D8004DA C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+5404da ()
7 00007FF63D7D0E1E C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+510e1e ()
8 00007FF63D80CDB9 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+54cdb9 ()
9 00007FF63D7E81BE C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+5281be ()
10 00007FF63D7E7A59 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+527a59 ()
11 00007FF63D7BADB3 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+4fadb3 ()
12 00007FF63D39883C C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+d883c ()
13 00007FF63D72046A C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+46046a ()
14 00007FF63DF8C877 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+ccc877 ()
15 00007FF63D39B95C C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+db95c ()
16 00007FF63E1ABA17 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+eeba17 ()
17 00007FFB46AB3034 C:\Windows\System32\KERNEL32.DLL+13034 ()
18 00007FFB48FD3691 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+73691 ()

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9 hours ago, ZE1011 said:

No changes no, I haven't tried removing plugins yet as its working fine with other ac. Ill try another flight soon and see if i have the same issues again. I think it is linked to disabling the heat blur when the ac is loaded possibly ??

Whenever an add on crashes, the first step on the users side is to remove all plugins and try again.  If no crash happens, it means there's some kind of conflict with a plugin.  Speaking for myself, and the people I work with, it's why we have at least 2 installations of x plane.  1 bare bones and 1 with plug ins.  Bare bones is used for testing after a crash in the normal, plug in filled version.

6 hours ago, Bryan @ The Aviation Agenc said:

My fps sucks... and it crashes all the damn time.

If you want help, courtesy and respect goes both ways.

18 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

1.1.4b CTD

 

2019-01-13 15:24:22 TBM900[except.c:171]: Caught EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Backtrace is:
0 00007FFB45D2BCF0 C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll+ebcf0 ()
1 00007FFB49003167 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+a3167 ()
2 00007FFB48FEB5E6 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+8b5e6 ()
3 00007FFB48FFF7DD C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+9f7dd ()
4 00007FFB48F6D856 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+d856 ()
5 00007FFB48FFE70E C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+9e70e ()
6 00007FF63D8004DA C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+5404da ()
7 00007FF63D7D0E1E C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+510e1e ()
8 00007FF63D80CDB9 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+54cdb9 ()
9 00007FF63D7E81BE C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+5281be ()
10 00007FF63D7E7A59 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+527a59 ()
11 00007FF63D7BADB3 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+4fadb3 ()
12 00007FF63D39883C C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+d883c ()
13 00007FF63D72046A C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+46046a ()
14 00007FF63DF8C877 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+ccc877 ()
15 00007FF63D39B95C C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+db95c ()
16 00007FF63E1ABA17 C:\X-Plane 11\X-Plane.exe+eeba17 ()
17 00007FFB46AB3034 C:\Windows\System32\KERNEL32.DLL+13034 ()
18 00007FFB48FD3691 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll+73691 ()

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Send this log to Laminar and outline what happened.  Please post back what they say.

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Asking around to see what's up with the fps in this latest update.  I can confirm it's NOT the TBM update. 

This latest X-Plane update (11.3) is causing some peoples x plane fps to tank down to single digits, while NOT running the TBM.  Some have no change.  Some have higher fps.  

It appears Threaded Optimization may be the culprit.

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I also get 'TBM900[except.c:171]: Caught EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION' crashes, however in my case I've isolated the problem.

Mine occurs when I have World Traffic AI defined in Xplane 'AI Aircraft' menu.  Removing them resolves my c:171 crashes, but also removed AI from being visible on the G1000 (or any other plugin which relies on it).  

World Traffic otherwise works fine with no crashes, but not having the AI on the G1000 is a bit of an immersion killer. 

Not sure if its related to the parallel thread on the c:282 crashes and scenery, but there seems to be link to the G1000 again. 

Hope we can find a resolution.

Thanks

 

 

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6 hours ago, wsando1 said:

I also get 'TBM900[except.c:171]: Caught EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION' crashes, however in my case I've isolated the problem.

Mine occurs when I have World Traffic AI defined in Xplane 'AI Aircraft' menu.  Removing them resolves my c:171 crashes, but also removed AI from being visible on the G1000 (or any other plugin which relies on it).  

World Traffic otherwise works fine with no crashes, but not having the AI on the G1000 is a bit of an immersion killer. 

Not sure if its related to the parallel thread on the c:282 crashes and scenery, but there seems to be link to the G1000 again. 

Hope we can find a resolution.

Thanks

 

 

Recent Log Attached

Log.txt

Can you please send Laminar this Log and tell them what you posted here.  It's likely there is a bug in the G1000.

5 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Interesting because I have similar error but no World Traffic. CTD are more common after latest patch. I didn't have them before through the whole 11.30 beta cycle.

Could be some kind of memory leak cause by 11.30 final?

There were more changes in XP from R2 to R3, including autopilot changes.

But it's definitely looking more and more like a scenery glitch coupled to the G1000.

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Just a thought. I have tried several performance heavy  airplanes  to fly exact same route KRNT CYZT and no crash occurred.  Then I tried to fly TBM in other location that involve 3rd party scenery with high CPU demand  and has experienced no problems whatsoever. So I'm thinking the error that caused my CTD may come with some kind of combination of "parsing route/navaid in G1000 and autopilot functionality"  rather then possibility of running out of memory

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On 1/16/2019 at 10:45 PM, Goran_M said:

Can you please send Laminar this Log and tell them what you posted here.  It's likely there is a bug in the G1000.

Laminar wrote: Unfortunately, we do not have a copy of this aircraft to investigate. Please contact its developer directly about what you have found. If they also see it, they should work with us directly because they will need to provide a copy of the aircraft to us.

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Hi,

I had a few issues with FPS and the occasional CTD.

I appeared to have fixed my issue by:

a. Stopping all unnecessary background resources and making as much RAM / VRAM as available as possible

b. I enabled  threaded optimisation in NV control panel

c. I loaded Cessna 172 first, and then TBM900 - I avoid loading a TBM saved flight

By doing the above, I went from 9 to >30FPS.

I am sure that the above 'fix' is system dependent.

Best of luck,

Bill.

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  On 1/13/2019 at 11:19 AM, Bryan @ The Aviation Agenc said:

My fps sucks... and it crashes all the damn time.

I If you want help, courtesy and respect goes both ways.

Goran... I didn't mean in any way this was your fault in my statement.  I didn't believe it was your aircraft... I figured (and still believe) it's the core Xplane engine. Whatever they did after the update... really screwed up people who aren't on Intel... (I have AMD and Raedon cards). My FPS went from 30 to 20 with your model... but it went from 40 to 20 with Carenado ... the only planes that perform reasonably well on full detail... are the Laminar aircraft... like the Vision Jet...   Basically if I'm flying anything but the 172 or the Vision Jet... I need to tone back all the detail levels...  because whatever they're doing now... my Raedon card hates it...  and my system crashes for absolutely no reason. I'll be at cruise... flying... doesn't matter if it's you or Carenado... or even one of the Laminar planes... it will just hang... and crash without warning... 

Hasn't happened too much lately... but when 11.30 was pushed out to Steam... it was awful.

I don't think that's you at all... Goran. Sorry if you felt that.

B

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