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Glad to hear 1.5.2 is still in the works.  The SAAB hasn't seen much air time since the A/P issue with 1.5.1. 

Tim

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On 2/23/2019 at 10:22 PM, tADEUS73 said:

Hi guys!

That's me again. As we now know there will be a 1.5.2 patch before 2.0 comes in the future I would like to report all the bugs I can in the hope they will make it into the patch! :D

So here comes another one. There is a smear-like shining path that the wipers leave when they operate. Is it supposed to look like it looks? I know some of my custom planes have minor graphical errors after the particle updates that kind of looked similar with those sharp edges. If it's not a bug but a feature, then sorry for wasting your time :)

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Well it looks like there isn't much movement in this forum section lately, so I can as well say, what I did find out on those smears. It seems like a lot of ppl don't have this problem... because they use the Visual Enhancement Mod for the Saab (the one with the little tables) and it removes the reflection/glass material of the windows altogether, so there are no smears because there is nothing there to have smears on :D They just fly without windows altogether and don't even notice that the plugin did that (basing on observation of youtubers:>).

If you have the glass/the reflective layer, then the wiper seems to simply delete it partially when it swipes.

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5 hours ago, tADEUS73 said:

Well it looks like there isn't much movement in this forum section lately, so I can as well say, what I did find out on those smears. It seems like a lot of ppl don't have this problem... because they use the Visual Enhancement Mod for the Saab (the one with the little tables) and it removes the reflection/glass material of the windows altogether, so there are no smears because there is nothing there to have smears on :D They just fly without windows altogether and don't even notice that the plugin did that (basing on observation of youtubers:>).

If you have the glass/the reflective layer, then the wiper seems to simply delete it partially when it swipes.

We cannot recreate this problem.  I have no idea what the "Visual Enhancement Mod" is, never head of it.  

What are your frame rates ?

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44 minutes ago, JGregory said:

We cannot recreate this problem.  I have no idea what the "Visual Enhancement Mod" is, never head of it.  

What are your frame rates ?

The windshield glass smear affects were introduced at the last update. The same update which altered the bank angle.  It's a guess but i would guess maybe a pbr glass was added for a reflection appearance or something.  i have no idea. I don't use that add on you guys are talking about. I just don't use the wipers anymore. I'm guessing the next update will have a fix for the glass.

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5 hours ago, JGregory said:

We cannot recreate this problem.  I have no idea what the "Visual Enhancement Mod" is, never head of it.  

What are your frame rates ?

Hi, 

Thanks for checking it on your side. My fps is around 40 average on the ground and 25-35 in the air depending on weather mostly. 

Interesting. I wonder why it only displays for some users. It's both in the passenger and cargo versions so I guess it's not some damaged file as they each have their files. Taking away the "glass" does fix it apparently, but I guess I prefer to have glass and not use the wipers ;)

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I had a license update the other day and saw the exact same thing on the glass.  But that was pre-validation.  After I entered my email and password, all went back to normal.  By any chance, did you remove Gizmo or didn't update your license?

 

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I thought The license updates automatically every few days or so. Yesterday i flew her and i saw the pop up console screen displayed upon loading the plane. So it looks like it validates. I haven't tried the wipers in a while. Is there a manual method to enter in my email and pw for this plane?. I'll give that a try.

Dave

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It does automatically update, but, IIRC, whenever you install an update or a new product, it asks to validate the license.  Otherwise, IIRC (again), it asks for a validation every 6 months.
I'll try some things on my end to see if I can reproduce the problem.

Also, if the Saab is running fine, with all systems working, you have a validated license.

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4 minutes ago, Goran_M said:

It does automatically update, but, IIRC, whenever you install an update or a new product, it asks to validate the license.  Otherwise, IIRC (again), it asks for a validation every 6 months.
I'll try some things on my end to see if I can reproduce the problem.

Also, if the Saab is running fine, with all systems working, you have a validated license.

Yes except for the aforementioned items, everything is working well. So i know the license is valid. I really think it has to do with the glass reflective properties.  i can still see a constant red tint only in one area, on the left side window at about eye level. I guess this is an attempt to illustrate a reflection of a system light or cockpit interior light. But it's very in your face. It's never been braught up. But i think what ever you guys did to allow this red reflection on the left side window at like your 10 oclock is the same thing which causes the wiper issue. I hope you get rid of the red tint area.

Dave

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I can get rid of the red reflection (which is the red binder), but then the glass would have no reflection at all.

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20 minutes ago, Goran_M said:

I can get rid of the red reflection (which is the red binder), but then the glass would have no reflection at all.

A lot of add ons have the option to turn on or off reflections. Whether it be instrument or windshield reflections. I personally fly without reflections on when that option is available . But that is an individual based option. So maybe you could make it an option in the next update?. At least i now know it's the red binder causing the reflection. Lol it was not obvious for me. I would rather just turn them off and have instrument reflections on.

Dave

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I did some tests.

Updated my X-aviation license > It did update, but no effect on the plane. Seems like it was up-to-date before. 

I did disable Gizmo > It did show a similar effect to the smears (and some rain drops) but most other systems in the plane didn't work. I did enable it again. Back to the thing I had before, everything in the plane works but I still have smears.

I did reboot the scripts through Gizmo > No effect.

Seems hopeless :D

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10 minutes ago, tADEUS73 said:

I did some tests.

Updated my X-aviation license > It did update, but no effect on the plane. Seems like it was up-to-date before. 

I did disable Gizmo > It did show a similar effect to the smears (and some rain drops) but most other systems in the plane didn't work. I did enable it again. Back to the thing I had before, everything in the plane works but I still have smears.

I did reboot the scripts through Gizmo > No effect.

Seems hopeless :D

I was able to recreate this and we are looking into it.

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Love to get her out of the hangar again any thoughts when SOON will happen with the update 1.5.2, yea I know, soon. :P

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6 hours ago, trevg said:

Love to get her out of the hangar again any thoughts when SOON will happen with the update 1.5.2, yea I know, soon. :P

Some time between now and the heat death of the universe. 

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On 5/1/2019 at 1:19 AM, Ben Russell said:

Some time between now and the heat death of the universe. 

I don't believe the second modifier is accurate.  Some where in the vast universe, there will still be a life form, that thrives in temperatures near absolute zero, still waiting for the 1.5.2 patch.

Alternate theory:  "heat death of the universe" means we will get the update when hell freezes over.

Tim

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We're working on it.  Still a few things to take care of.  All moveable parts in the cockpit have been re-animated with new datarefs.  Some code still needs to be fixed.  Have to run a few tests and check lighting.  We're getting there.

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I would second a motion by a previous poster to have the option to turn on or off internal reflections. A second option is to tone down the reflections.  I find the reflections a bit too strong. I am a new user of LES SAAB 340A after just having recently purchasing it. I have to admit that I have not tried flying it yet as I go up the learning curve on this aircraft. Concerning the smear on the windshield, I have seen it before too when it was first installed. Since then, I haven't noticed it. I have version 1.5.1 on X-Plane 11.35. Thanks and I look forward to flying the SAAB.

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On 5/7/2019 at 11:18 PM, Goran_M said:

We're getting there.

3 months.  You any closer to a update release. ?

Just curious.

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Closer by the day.  I have to re-animate every switch, lever, guard, button, door, and also re-work almost all the manipulators.  Most of the animations are done, but some things are still not working and we're trying to get those issues fixed.  

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Re-animate every switch :huh:
Sounds like more than 1.5.2 is coming


In this instance not so much. Unfortunately, in order to use the newer versions of Blender all animations must be re-done. They don't carry over from older versions that the Saab used.

Long term outlook it's necessary though!

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Hey, I'm considering buying the Saab340A. Did I understand correctly, that development will continue, and there are several updates and bugfixes envisioned, which will be free of charge? Yes, I know, not timeline as of now. But I love the TBM, so I have faith in you guys!

@Cameron

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