wain Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 I am wondering if there is a way of setting PAX and Cargo?, never found anything apart from Randomize on the groundservices, I set my fuel from there..... Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, wain said: I am wondering if there is a way of setting PAX and Cargo?, never found anything apart from Randomize on the groundservices, I set my fuel from there..... Wayne Depending how you plan your flight. But the PAX and Cargo is set by adjusting the ZFW at the groundservice menu. Here is an example from PFPX (payware) I got 111 PAX and 1175kg CARGO which gives me a ZFW of 44.6 tons. So just set 44.6 tons ZFW on the groundservice menu. You can also use the free tool SimBrief.com for planning your flight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmerelles Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, wain said: I am wondering if there is a way of setting PAX and Cargo?, never found anything apart from Randomize on the groundservices, I set my fuel from there..... Wayne As Tom said, the aircraft has not the feature, you can only set total zero fuel weight via the ixeg menu (pax+cargo) and fuel. note: you may cosider Igodispatchapp, mobile version is available and desktop version coming soon. Upcoming igodispatch desktop version 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 thanks Tom, I use Simbrief/Navigraph so I will look at that for my next flight........ similar subject, see in the image below....ground service menu has one C OF G and Trim, FMS has another, do I adjust my FMS to match the ground service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmerelles Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) type your CG on the scratchpad, then press LSK3 to update the FMC CG as per the ground service, the fmc will update CG and resulting TRIM Edited September 5, 2017 by mmerelles misspelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 yep just tried that, thanks, I will look at your app video but need to go to work in a short while..... does the COG change in the ground services with adjustment of load? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, wain said: thanks Tom, I use Simbrief/Navigraph so I will look at that for my next flight........ similar subject, see in the image below....ground service menu has one C OF G and Trim, FMS has another, do I adjust my FMS to match the ground service? Yes, in this case you have to set your CG on the FMS to 10.6%. I dont think its really have anything to say what you put in the CG on the FMS . Its just a tool for calculating your TRIM setting for the takeoff, that you allready got from the ground service menu (4.6 units). The most important part is to actual set the correct TRIM for your aircraft. But I always do update the FMS with the CG. Edited September 5, 2017 by Tom Stian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litjan Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 mmerelles is correct. The 22.0% is a default setting - the FMS has no way of knowing the actual CG (some other aircraft attempt to find it by measuring strut compression), so you have to enter it manually. Well, you don´t have to - the FMS does nothing but calculate your trim for you...which you already have on the ground service menu. What´s important is that you set the correct trim on the trim wheel. Cheers, Jan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 thanks guys very helpful....I will probably be back with morre questions, sorry, enjoying this it's so immersive and you are all very helpful.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 oh just thought, before TOD into Berlin the other day I couldn't find where to set Transition Alt for EDDT, should I have done that during the set up at Mnachester? I have looked through Tutorials but failed to find it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iGoApp Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 I just noticed that PFPX uses 33,549 kg as DOW for the plane, whereas IXEG's DOW is slightly different (32,831 kg, according to my notes). I guess, one of the reasons to use iGoDispatch for flight planning for this particular plane. Does anyone know what SimBrief has as DOW? cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, iGoApp said: I just noticed that PFPX uses 33,549 kg as DOW for the plane, whereas IXEG's DOW is slightly different (32,831 kg, according to my notes). I guess, one of the reasons to use iGoDispatch for flight planning for this particular plane. Does anyone know what SimBrief has as DOW? cheers! The default B737-300 on simbrief is operating with this values. And you can change them. I may have modified my 733 profile for PFPX. I dont remember Edited September 5, 2017 by Tom Stian typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 The lowest value you can set the ZFW in the ground service menu in the IXEG is 33.33 tons. But the plane-maker says empty weight is 72380 lbs (32831kg). So Im not sure what is correct. Or maybe crew is included at the lowest ZFW in the ground service menu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iGoApp Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Zero Fuel Weight is a dry operating weight plus payload ( passengers, cargo, snacks, booze). So, the ground service menu simply restricts the payload from being less than .... whatever the difference is. ))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stian Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, wain said: oh just thought, before TOD into Berlin the other day I couldn't find where to set Transition Alt for EDDT, should I have done that during the set up at Mnachester? I have looked through Tutorials but failed to find it.... You can enter Transition Level at the Descent Forecast page. (DES-button on FMS ->FORECAST) I usually enter the transition level when im doing the descend/approach planning. (while airborn and before TOD). Edited September 5, 2017 by Tom Stian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wain Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) cheers Tom, I thought that is where I was looking but all I could get to was Alternate, I reckon I pressed the wrong button, I will try again next flight..... Edited September 5, 2017 by wain pressed submit to soon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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